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SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:49 pm

Just breaking at Farnborough will be released on

http://www.airbus.com shortly news via Bloomberg

SQ also retain 9 x A380 Options and 2012 delivery for the A350s

SQ will also lease 19 x A330-300 Deliveries to commence early 2009

Delivery of A380s to commence in 2008

No engine selection announced at this time

It's all true....have streaming media conference feed.

PanAm_DC10

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:51 pm

If confirmed, this surely looks like resurrection day for Airbus.

Fingers crossed for the official announcements later today.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:51 pm

Well that puts a few A380 roumers to bed. Good news for the A350. Bad news for the 748i.

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:52 pm

Hi!

For those that kept bashing Airbus in these last few months I want to see what they have to say now! Great order from a strong airline and this will certainly boost A350 again!
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:54 pm

Congrats Airbus. This surely is a big order. Sure there will be huge discounts.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:56 pm

Quoting CV990 (Reply 3):
For those that kept bashing Airbus in these last few months I want to see what they have to say now

don't worry, they will find something to say... let them talk, it doesn't matter.

awesome news for SQ and Airbus, really glad to hear that !
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:59 pm

Why, suddenly all the Airbus orders ?? And the 330-300 leases ??

Some sort of deal they (SQ) got for the major delay of the A380 from Airbus ?

Still good news for Airbus if confirmed.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:59 pm

if this goes through, the question mark will be now on the 787-10
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:00 pm

Is today the last day at Farnborough? If so, Airbus sure knows how to keep the biggest news of all till the very end.

What a surprise order really, no hints, no rumours, no leaks, just a big bang confirmation putting an end to several rumours at once:

SQ cancelling the A380 order

SQ ordering the 747-8i

A380 underperforming

SQ still not happy which the reworked A350XWB

SQ never going to operate A333s

etc...

John Leahy was right: orders speak more than words.

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:01 pm

Hi!

I knew that Airbus would come back with a very good product. The romans used to say "Errare humanum est", Airbus admited that, and this is the most humble thing you can do! Now what I see is SQ throwing out the 777 soon....and who else will do that too??? This order will make a completely change in the market!
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:03 pm

WOW, why would SQ order the 333?
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:04 pm

Good news for Airbus - and for the A350 order in particular. Nice to see SQ have faith in the programme. Also the A380 - when many were suggesting cancellations were coming, for SQ to order more is a very positive sign.
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:05 pm

Note that all of the posts so far are from Europe! Just wait until breakfast time on the East Coast and our transatlantic cousins stare into their screens. Sorry for stirring.... tin helmets everybody!...
 
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:07 pm

The A330's most likely as interims solution to launch new services and replace them as come with A350-900...
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:07 pm

Hi!

I guess Airbus is offering the 333 has a transition model until the 350 is available. They've been doing that with other airlines like TP and AY, it's just a strategy I guess!
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:07 pm

Jesus, didnt expect that!

Quoting Fuffla (Reply 11):
WOW, why would SQ order the 333?

Intermediate aircraft until the A350 arrives. Allows its pilots to get time on Airbus twins and provide a path if Airbus retains its CCQ system to the A350 (likely, based on history).
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:10 pm

When I read this thread title, all I could say was "Whoa". This order came out of no where. I suspect SQ must be really happy with the A350XWB. This also speaks volumes for the A380 even if the airplane is like 7 months late. I believe the leased A330's are stop-gap airplanes until the A350 arrives. Wow.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:10 pm

Yay for the A380 orders, Nay for the 330's. I don't mean to sound offensive, but I just don't like them. A330-300's, that is. I much prefer the 777's and I don't know whether I am going to like flying with SQ now. Who am I kidding, of course I'll like SQ just not their 333's. So are these 333's going to be deployed on regional or intercontinental routes? I hope they do not come to AKL or CHC.

So will SQ now have 19 380's on order?

When is all this info going to be seriously/publically released?
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:10 pm

Fair use excerpt;

By Kyunghee Park
July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS, which is trailing Boeing Co. in orders this year, won a contract for 20 A350 XWB-900s and nine A380s from Singapore Airlines Ltd. worth an estimated $7.5 billion, as Asia's most profitable carrier aims to expand routes.

Singapore Airlines has options to buy 20 more A350 XWB-900s and six A380s, the carrier said in an e-mailed statement today. The airline will take delivery of the planes from 2008, it said in a statement to the Singapore stock exchange today.


END - Fair use excerpt - http://www.bloomberg.com

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:11 pm

Congrats for both of them! Certainly didn't saw this one comming, although the A350 offers SQ the amount of seats they missed with the 787...
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:12 pm

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 13):
Note that all of the posts so far are from Europe! Just wait until breakfast time on the East Coast and our transatlantic cousins stare into their screens.

Yes indeed, this huge order announcement from SQ for widebody Airbus planes is PERFECTLY timed to make sure it will be on the tickers of the financial news shows in America when our transatlantic friends wake up this morning and switch on their television set.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:15 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):

Sorry PanAm_DC10 - missed that.
Did you say SQ cancelled 9 A380's ?
Shame - that will be a major blow to the programme  biggrin .

Does that mean SQ are no longer a "blue chip" carrier  biggergrin  (no picture for that, sorry)

Thanks for the info. Congrats to SQ and Airbus

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:16 pm

Leahy did say earlier this week that he was still actively pitching the A350XWB to SQ. Interesting move by SQ, particularly when EK has been saying recently that they wouldn't split their order between the competing aircraft. Looks like they've decided to hedge their bets.

Definitely, a major boost for the A380 program. Also interesting that Airbus can begin delivering the aircraft for which the options have been exercised beginning in 2008, given the slowdown in production ramp-up. Perhaps another customer has agreed to exchange the requsite slots?
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:16 pm

Guys, please stop with the 'in your face, american posters' comments - its not good, its not adult behaviour and you wouldnt like it if it was done on every large Boeing order.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:17 pm

Hi!

Hey guys, can you imagine what this order can bring to other airlines that are in process of ordering either the 787 or the A350???? This is gonna get very wild real soon!!!! Who's next to get the A350? Any guesses????
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:20 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
SQ will also lease 19 x A330-300 Deliveries to commence early 2009

Being serious again, will these 19 x A330's manifest themselves as new orders?

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:20 pm

Man, Randy's jaw must have dropped ! Not only that. It fell away, hence he's speechless now !  Wink

Congrats to both Airbus and SQ !  bigthumbsup 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:21 pm

Airbus certainly saved the best for last here. This deal certainly blows the socks of any other deal announced at Farnborough.

More important, it confirms SQ's faith in the A380 program and is a major boost for the Airbus sales people in search for A350 customers.
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:21 pm

Hi!

About the american posters, well I know exactly those that I'm refering, it's just a minority, I respect a lot our US enthusiasts and they are a great value for this forum.....but there are very few that deserve some of our words down here!!!
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:23 pm

So, who is next to follow SQ and cancel its B789 order ?

Any ideas?
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:24 pm

Quoting Johnny (Reply 33):
So, who is next to follow SQ and cancel its B789 order ?

Who said anything about cancelling? To be fair, they can work alongside each other very well - its not an exclusive thing.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:24 pm

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 29):
Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
SQ will also lease 19 x A330-300 Deliveries to commence early 2009

Being serious again, will these 19 x A330's manifest themselves as new orders?

Most likely yes. CIT has ordered five just days ago, but I very much doubt that many more frames are available in the market. Would assume that at least one of the big lessors will need to come out for at least 15 A330s. And my bet is that it will be SALE...
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:25 pm

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 26):
Also interesting that Airbus can begin delivering the aircraft for which the options have been exercised beginning in 2008, given the slowdown in production ramp-up. Perhaps another customer has agreed to exchange the requsite slots

It IS odd, isn't it?
I can't imagine a customer who is entitled to compensation giving up early slots, unless the dreaded "C" word is still on the horizon....
Or they REALLY like Airbus  Smile

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:27 pm

Quoting Johnny (Reply 33):
So, who is next to follow SQ and cancel its B789 order ?

Have SQ actually cancelled their 787 order? Or has it just been hinted that they only need 20 787/A350 type aircraft?
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:27 pm

Seriously, my reply 13 was a bit tongue in cheek! This is great news for Airbus and it ably confirms a recent comment of mine where I said that aircraft manufacturing is like a rollercoaster! One day Boeing have the upper hand and one set of supporters are cheering, the next they're throwing ropes over the nearest lampost and theratening suicide. As a neutral with an odd sense of humour I think it's all wonderful, which is why I subscribe to the website...

It would seem that we have two great major airline manufacturers on this palnet, both producing truly amazing and innovative products. Anyone involved with sales knows you have good days and you have not so good days. Today looks good for Toulouse et al, no doubt our friends at Seattle will have a better day on monday. But remember, both days will be good for the aviation industry.  biggrin   biggrin   bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:27 pm

Hi!

Using TP example when they ordered 12 A350's and they also got 3 used A330-200's + 5 brand new A330-200's what's going to happen is that TP will return first the ones that will come new from Airbus to be replaced by the A350. The ex: Swissair ones will stay until TP receives the last A350's! Now just a question, during all his process of revamping the A350 I NEVER SAW any airline that ordered the "first version" of the A350 to step back....I think Airbus started to pump information to all of those that already had an order and that's why those airlines kept their faith in the new version!
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:27 pm

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 29):
Being serious again, will these 19 x A330's manifest themselves as new orders?

Yes, they will be new orders

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:27 pm

There is still the order from Yeminia (10 x A350) overdue to be announced.
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:28 pm

I think both 787 and A350 will be seen in SQ's fleet. 787 for the Asian routes, A350 for the long-haul routes.


I also think the A350/787 will Replace the 777-200A/300 and Some 200ER's , wich are getting ''old'', but before they are getting deliverd SQ will replace them with A330-300's, so they still can get money for them, and the pilots already learned how the fly the A330 (wich is simular to the A350 in terms of cockpit manuals)

In the future (2012) we might see this in SQ's fleet

787-9
A330-300
A350-900
777-300ER
777-200LR
A380

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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:28 pm

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 36):
I can't imagine a customer who is entitled to compensation giving up early slots, unless the dreaded "C" word is still on the horizon....

Didn't VS and AF put back their deliveries, though? Were these vacant slots ever refilled?
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:28 pm

Wow, so SQ will operate the 789 and A359 together! I guess the A359 will replace the older 772s. A later order perhaps for the A3510 to replace their 773s perhaps?

I guess the A333 is a good interim aircraft before both arrive, they could of course have ordered it years ago if they wanted something for their regional routes!
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:30 pm

Quoting Johnny (Reply 24):
Best regards to all people which bashed me hard about my idea that SQ changes their B789 order into a A359 order!!!

Although the deal between SQ and Boeing for 20 787s was a MoU only, it is possible for SQ to be taking both planes, with the 787s for the regional routes, and the somewhat bigger and more comfortable A350 for their long haul routes, or is this 787 deal dead now? Some additional commenting from the airline is required on this first.

If however SQ decides not to sign for the 787 after all, then that's the second big loss for Boeing in less than 3 days, and both are clearly linked to Airbus and most likely their announcement of the A350XWB.

I wonder if Mr Baseler still thinks this plane just doesn't make any sense?
I have a strong feeling this remark is going to haunt him for quite some time, in a way much more painful than the chinese copy remark from Forgeard on the 787...
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XGW & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:30 pm

Quoting JumpJet (Reply 13):
Note that all of the posts so far are from Europe! Just wait until breakfast time on the East Coast and our transatlantic cousins stare into their screens. Sorry for stirring.... tin helmets everybody!...

I've noticed before that mornings are a great time for exclusive euro-threads (with the occasional Aussie thrown in for good measure)  stirthepot 


Quoting Fuffla (Reply 11):
WOW, why would SQ order the 333?

I find this surprising too. I thought they might be for regional routes/expansion that the 777s are slightly too big for, but the capacity is about the same, so it can't be that.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:30 pm

Great news for Airbus at a time when they really need it. This could be a sign that the industry is getting close to satisfied with their revamped product strategy. With that said, the three main priorities from here on for Airbus have got to be execution, execution, and finally, execution.
 
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Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:34 pm

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 46):
I've noticed before that mornings are a great time for exclusive euro-threads (with the occasional Aussie thrown in for good measure)

With the timezone issues, AM in Europe is Euro smug zone!!! Big grin
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:34 pm

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 43):
Didn't VS and AF put back their deliveries, though? Were these vacant slots ever refilled?

Well, the press release says 'The airline will take delivery of the planes from 2008' which can mean they get one aircraft each year from 2008 - it doesnt mean every aircraft is to be delivered in quick succession. Fitting in two or three aircraft a year into the delivery schedule may be pretty easy for Airbus to do.
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:34 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 20):
Yay for the A380 orders, Nay for the 330's. I don't mean to sound offensive, but I just don't like them. A330-300's, that is. I much prefer the 777's and I don't know whether I am going to like flying with SQ now

Do you only travel Business and First ?

If you travel Eco, do you really prefer 3-3-3 to 2-4-2 ?
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:35 pm

@MauriceB

But the 787-8 was not ordered by SQ, it was the -9, which is perfectly overlapping with the A359...

I think the B789 for SQ was just an MoU to put some additional pressure on Airbus.

By the way, i think only the B777 and A350 can use the same wide seats as used in the A380, correct? That could be a big point for an airline like SQ if they want to offer a similiar product.


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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:35 pm

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 46):
(with the occasional Aussie thrown in for good measure)

LOL LOL  rotfl   rotfl 
 
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RE: SQ Order 20 X A350-900XWB & 9 X A380s

Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:36 pm

Here is a link to the PDF Filed by SQ with the Singapore Stock Exchange

http://info.sgx.com/webcorannc.nsf/4...9c05482571b200367a31?OpenDocument#

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