fokkerf28
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BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:54 am

BA flight 289 from LHR has diverted to TUS due to weather in PHX.
Must be the first ever 747-400 to have landed in TUS.

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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:22 am

Some nasty dust storms in the valley tonight....I was on I-10 sitting in traffic at the west end of Sky Harbor about 445 and only saw two planes come in from the west... an AS MD80 and someone's 757......nasty wind....dust... I'm sure the BA plane wasn't the only one going to TUS..
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:24 am

Yeah, there are several Southwest flights that diverted to TUS, such as

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...6/history/20060721/2306Z/KSAN/KPHX
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...2/history/20060721/2225Z/KSMF/KPHX

and others such as

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...5/history/20060721/2048Z/KORD/KPHX

In spite of the heat (110F, 43C at the moment) I'm tempted to drive to the airport to see a BA744!!! Oh well, maybe I'll just wait 30 days and see them in MAN !  Smile

[Edited 2006-07-22 03:29:56]
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:46 pm

Yes it was a mess here today. I was just about to go home when they told us BA would be diverting. We've seen many jumbos in TUS...that wasn't the big deal...it was that the crew was going to time out and we'd be stuck with 450 people and no way to get them to PHX. Luckily as I was leaving, it was rolling down the runway back to PHX. Definetly a sweet sight though!
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:47 pm

Did anyone get any pictures?
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:41 pm

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 3):
it was that the crew was going to time out and we'd be stuck with 450 people and no way to get them to PHX.

just a correction, none of our 744s carry that many people.
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:06 pm

Quoting SABE (Reply 2):
just wait 30 days and see them in MAN

you'll be very lucky if you do. I'm not sure whether they operate there but I never see them, maybe they only come in when I'm not around.

AA 757/763's are a common site
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:20 pm

Quoting SABE (Reply 2):
Oh well, maybe I'll just wait 30 days and see them in MAN !



Quoting BA787 (Reply 6):
you'll be very lucky if you do. I'm not sure whether they operate there but I never see them, maybe they only come in when I'm not around.

To my knowledge MAN has only had one LHR-MAN shuttle and a few diversions (including the now infamous three engine flight from LAX) that involved the BA B747-400 in the last three years or so.

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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:23 pm

Quoting PurpleBox (Reply 7):

You're right there. I just ran a search on them. They used to operate to Islamabad with 744's out of MAN. CX are regular 747 visitors as are PIA. Virgin also operate 744's out of MAN in the summer season.

Like I said, you'll be lucky to see a BA 744 in the U.K. outside of Heathrow

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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:01 pm

Quoting BA787 (Reply 8):
CX are regular 747 visitors

Only with their freight 747s

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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:11 pm

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 9):
Only with their freight 747s

In the MAN Information guide it says CX operate passenger services too, not sure if they are with 747'sthough.. I meant the freighters anyways

Tom
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 5):
just a correction, none of our 744s carry that many people.

Oh ok...well we never really found out, just going by what the captain told us. He requested 450 biscuits...that gave us a good laugh..lol We were like, where the heck are we going to get any biscuits! hehe
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 11):
Oh ok...well we never really found out, just going by what the captain told us. He requested 450 biscuits...that gave us a good laugh..lol We were like, where the heck are we going to get any biscuits! hehe

Ah, how British...if in doubt, have a nice cup of tea and some biscuits  rotfl   thumbsup 
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting HPLASOps (Reply 4):
Did anyone get any pictures?

No pictures sorry...we were way too busy...and no camera  Sad
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:40 pm

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 11):
Oh ok...well we never really found out, just going by what the captain told us. He requested 450 biscuits.

Haha, how British  Smile, I think the BA 744's hold about 360 passengers, somewhere near that, plus (up to) 15 cabin crew and 2-4 flight crew, though PHX would have 3 flight crew.

Quoting SABE (Reply 2):
I'm tempted to drive to the airport to see a BA744!!! Oh well, maybe I'll just wait 30 days and see them in MAN !

As has been said, 744's from BA haven't been seen at MAN for a scheduled service in ages, you best bet is to go to LHR, or go to EZE, however, if you're satisfied with a 767, MAN it is !

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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:44 pm

Quoting Fokkerf28 (Thread starter):
Must be the first ever 747-400 to have landed in TUS.

Highly Unlikely.
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:45 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 14):
I think the BA 744's hold about 360



BA's 744

High J
14 First
70 Club World
30 World Traveler Plus
177 World Traveler

Total = 291

Low J
14 First
38 Club World
36 World Traveler Plus
272 World Traveler

Total = 360

[Edited 2006-07-22 18:46:37]
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 3):

If you don't mind my asking. When did this flight arrive in TUS and how long did it stay? Also, where was it parked while it was here? The gates are too small for a 744 and the ramp must have been crowded since I counted 7 WN diversions to TUS. Another day when I don't pay attention to what's going on and miss a great opportunity.
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:55 am

We finally had a nice PM here yesterday....Had winds gusting to 60mph for the past few nights...Guess PHX got their share....
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:32 am

Hi All, I drove from the north side to get to the airport just in time to see the BA 744 leave. It left at around 7:45p. It looked like it was parked on the ramp over by the aa gates, but the TUS airport employees here can verify that.

Sorry for the shitty pictures, of all days that I forgot to chagre my camera, I was lucky to get these off before it died. Anybody know what the NWA 757 that is in the frame of the pictures is there for? These were taken from the parking lot next to the Tower Ramp looking west.

BTW, we get actually quite a few heavies here, not everyday, but with some frequency....a few months back there was a 747 doing touch and go's. In fact, waaaay back when my father remembred where Lufthansa 747s would do training touch and go's at TUS....just fyi.......

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m30/bimmerbimmer99/c2de3218.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m30/bimmerbimmer99/1d43cadd.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m30/bimmerbimmer99/6e72270f.jpg
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:21 am

Quoting AA54Heavy (Reply 19):
Anybody know what the NWA 757 that is in the frame of the pictures is there for?

My guess is it was NW flight 105 diverted from PHX (originating in MSP)? Someone would have to confirm this.
It appears Delta, United, and America west also had multiple diversions from PHX to TUS.

Mesa was also diverting CRJ's to YUM.
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:29 am

Quoting BA787 (Reply 8):
Like I said, you'll be lucky to see a BA 744 in the U.K. outside of Heathrow

Agreed, but you will also find them at CWL where the MX is done.

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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:43 am

It arrived around 5:30pm and was taking off when I left which was around 7:45pm. They had it parked by the AA gates...we didn't have a towbar for a plane that big so it couldn't be parked at the gate.
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:00 am

Quoting Thegooddoctor (Reply 20):
My guess is it was NW flight 105 diverted from PHX (originating in MSP)? Someone would have to confirm this

Not sure why the NW plane was there...it was there earlier in the day..not a diversion.
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fokkerf28
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):
Highly Unlikely.

So tell me then how many 747-400, have landed in TUS. Not 100,200.300 only 400's? since you think that it is highly unlikely!!!!
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:09 am

Do they allow passengers to temporarily deplane under these circumstances, or do they have to wait inside the aircraft?
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:29 pm

Why does it usually take so long for planes to depart again after diverting? Weather in AZ usually lasts less than an hour, but planes will stay in TUS for 2 or more hours. Is it because of the backlog of flights that have to be sorted through in PHX or another reason?
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:41 pm

Quoting Fokkerf28 (Reply 24):
So tell me then how many 747-400, have landed in TUS. Not 100,200.300 only 400's? since you think that it is highly unlikely!!!!

We had a UA 744 in TUS maybe a couple years ago.

Quoting YVRlonghauler (Reply 25):
Do they allow passengers to temporarily deplane under these circumstances, or do they have to wait inside the aircraft?

No they do not. Customs/Immigrations was not there so they could not let the passengers off. We also had a MEX-PHX flight divert and only the pilots got off the aircraft to do a walk-around.

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 26):
Why does it usually take so long for planes to depart again after diverting? Weather in AZ usually lasts less than an hour, but planes will stay in TUS for 2 or more hours. Is it because of the backlog of flights that have to be sorted through in PHX or another reason?

Yes the traffic gets backed up pretty bad. It's also a matter of fueling each aircraft and getting release paperwork. The fuelers were going mad trying to service each plane. In the case of the BA flight, the fuelers would not fill the plane because BA did not have a contract with them. It took quite a while to get it sorted out, and ended up billing HP/US for the fuel and then BA will have to reimburse us for it.
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:34 am

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 26):
Why does it usually take so long for planes to depart again after diverting? Weather in AZ usually lasts less than an hour, but planes will stay in TUS for 2 or more hours. Is it because of the backlog of flights that have to be sorted through in PHX or another reason?

Yeah - plus remember that for every plane that diverts to TUS, ABQ, LAS, etc when there's a weather shutdown in PHX, there's one in a holding pattern dipping into their reserve fuel. A larger portion of flights to PHX (and I am thinking most west coast airports have this problem) are from destinations that are greater than 2 hours away and groundstops are not as effective as they are on the east coast. So not only do you have the diverted flights to land, but those who are holding, and also those that took off before the ground stop and arrived after the storm was finished. It can be a little busy...

On the note of Arizona Diversions - I remember a few years ago a summer thunderstorm not only caused a very long delay with some very severe winds. Not only were the usual diversion airports used (TUS, ABQ, LAS), but I also remember seeing flights diverted to INW (Winslow, AZ - Southwest landed at least 2 737s here), YUM, LAX, and PRC (Prescott, AZ - yes, jets).

Has anyone seen/heard of this in recent years or know of any other small AZ cities that have recieved jets diverted from PHX?
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:38 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 3):
it was that the crew was going to time out and we'd be stuck with 450 people and no way to get them to PHX. Luckily as I was leaving, it was rolling down the runway back to PHX. Definetly a sweet sight though!

If it is an unanticipated diversion, aren't they allowed to go over their hours to complete the flight?
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:22 am

Quoting Flyboyaz (Reply 27):
We had a UA 744 in TUS maybe a couple years ago

TUS had an Air France Concorde there in 95 or 96, remember that one?
 
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RE: BA FLT 289 Diverted TUS!

Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:29 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 29):
If it is an unanticipated diversion, aren't they allowed to go over their hours to complete the flight?

I would think so, but they were quite concerned about the crews timing out. I've seen it happen a few times before. The only time it was ok for them to continue was when it was a medical or aircraft emergency.

Quoting Socalfive (Reply 30):
TUS had an Air France Concorde there in 95 or 96, remember that one?

I wasn't living in AZ at the time, but yes I heard about it. I remember hearing stories of a BA Concorde I think...maybe in PHX, where the agents were boarding it for a charter and they didn't board correctly. The FA's came running off the plane telling them to stop because it would cause the plane to tip....don't know much about that...but it was a funny story.
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