ktachiya
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BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:05 pm

It was awkward. There was a BA 747-400 parked in YVR in the deicing bay when I first got there around noon.

When the QF flight landed, he was instructed to park next to Speed Bird 47 (was this another diversion)? It didn't look so medical in that it was parked at West 2 with its doors open. Was there a technical problem?

Eitherway, Speedbird 85 landed around 14:30 (For some reason, they call themselves Speedbird three victor alpha). And I didn't see it but speedbird 86 came in in the evening.

Lots of 747-400 movements. The cathay 888 flight was extremely delayed and departed when Qantas landed, there were 2 JL 744 (17 and 11), BA and etc.

So does anyone know the reason for the diversion?
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:10 pm

It was a tech (overnight) delay on the BA86, acft reg G-BNLX, due to a problem with the slats/flaps.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:13 pm

Speedbird 86 is the return flight the LHR from YVR.

BA operate 2 flights a day at the moment to YVR, the 85 and 87 to YVR and the 84 and 86 on the way back.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:20 pm

Quoting Geo772 (Reply 2):
Speedbird 86 is the return flight the LHR from YVR.

You mean the return flight from LHR to YVR? You are correct sir.

Quoting Ktachiya (Thread starter):
he was instructed to park next to Speed Bird 47 (was this another diversion)?

Must have meant the "Speedbird Boeing 747". Speedbird 47 is a service from LHR to DAR (Dar Es Salaam).
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:20 pm

Wow.... thank you for the fast reply guys.

It must be an unfortunate week for European flights. The KLM that stayed at YVR because the pilot was sick, now this one.

So were there 2x speedbird 86 that operated today?
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:23 pm

Quoting Ktachiya (Thread starter):
Eitherway, Speedbird 85 landed around 14:30 (For some reason, they call themselves Speedbird three victor alpha). And I didn't see it but speedbird 86 came in in the evening.

Doesn't BA085 usually come in around 18:00?
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:51 pm

Yeah it appears that some BA's passengers are spending the night (Jul 21), at Richmond Inn. Technical problem with the aircraft!

British's OTP out of YVR is just as bad as CX's. Aircraft fatigue seems to take its tool.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:29 pm

Quoting Connector4you (Reply 6):
s just as bad as CX's

Yeah. There's is really really bad these days. CX 888 departed at like 2:40 today when it should have left 1hr 30 min before.

And sorry for getting the flight #'s wrong.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:21 am

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 3):
Quoting Geo772 (Reply 2):
Speedbird 86 is the return flight the LHR from YVR.

You mean the return flight from LHR to YVR? You are correct sir.

Geo772 was correct in that it is Speedbird 86 from YVR. All BA longhaul flight end in odd numbers from UK (LHR/LGW/MAN) to wherever and end in even numbers when returning to the UK.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:35 am

BA do not operate two flts per day to YVR.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:48 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 9):
BA do not operate two flts per day to YVR.

....and where did you get this information??

You're obviously very misinformed. Please go to www.ba.com and check schedules. They fly 2 747-400's daily except Wednesdays when ony BA 85 operates.


Check your information before you post.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:51 am

Air Canada if a far superior product to BA out of YVR.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 11):
Air Canada if a far superior product to BA out of YVR.

 rotfl  Laugh of the day for me, thanks. Man, you're really on form with your posts today, eh? Is BA Price Fixing? (by BOE773 Jul 22 2006 in Civil Aviation) is another good example. Thanks for lightening the mood  thumbsup   sarcastic 
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:24 am

BA is just an old legacy carrier being one of the few flying quads across the pond.
Air Canada is a reinvented carrier much more modern than BA.
Try them, you'll like them.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:57 am

Apparently enough people have preferred BA out of YVR for them to switch from a 767 10 years ago to the two daily 747-400s that we have now.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:23 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 13):
Air Canada is a reinvented carrier much more modern than BA.
Try them, you'll like them

You are obviously dreaming! I have tried both the products and air canada is not no where near BA in terms of its product.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 13):
BA is just an old legacy carrier being one of the few flying quads across the pond.
Air Canada is a reinvented carrier much more modern than BA.
Try them, you'll like them

Ive travelled both in the past 6 months and BA were ,IMO,far superior in every aspect. But thats not what this post is about.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:12 am

I'll take AC when they get IFE in coach for Y class. Even though BA does MCO-LGW. I'll do MCO-YYZ-LHR-YYZ-MCO on AC. Since I'm a US platinum member, ill redeem miles and hopefully get upgraded to F.

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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:20 am

Quoting Emirates773ER (Reply 15):
You are obviously dreaming! I have tried both the products and air canada is not no where near BA in terms of its product.

I have flown both carriers myself several times. As far as econo class goes, I don't find much of a difference between the 2. I prefer AC on the YVR-LHR run, because the B747 is just too crowded for me with a 3-4-3 seating arrangement. I always like to have a window seat, and the 2x "excuse me" to get to the lav is bothersome.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 11):
Air Canada if a far superior product to BA out of YVR

I need to get me some of those drugs you are on !

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 13):
BA is just an old legacy carrier being one of the few flying quads across the pond.
Air Canada is a reinvented carrier much more modern than BA.
Try them, you'll like them.

Yeah like those modern *flip screens* in the front of the cabin and the *modern* approach to movie selection ..... that is *no selection* you watch what we play ! Makes it so much more simpler for the passengers flying on AC.
Why be like BA and put passengers through stresses like *hum what should I watch on my personal screen in all classes*.

Boe773 you are just so right !
BA all the way !!!
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:03 am

Quoting Simong (Reply 19):
Yeah like those modern *flip screens* in the front of the cabin and the *modern* approach to movie selection ..... that is *no selection* you watch what we play ! Makes it so much more simpler for the passengers flying on AC.
Why be like BA and put passengers through stresses like *hum what should I watch on my personal screen in all classes*.

Since when does BA offer PTV's in all classes on board their B747's used on the YVR runs?
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:07 am

I've travelled on both carriers many times and I'll take AC any day over BA.
I can't stand the polite arrogance of BA flt crew.

Then those 'frocks' are another thing to have to look at for 8 hours!

When Air Canada's dreamliners come on line the public will favor travelling on these new birds compared to BA's old 747s.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:15 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 20):
Since when does BA offer PTV's in all classes on board their B747's used on the YVR runs?

For about 5 years or so.............

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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting Highpeaklad (Reply 22):
For about 5 years or so.............

Do some B747's still not have the PTV's in World Traveller? Last time I was on them in 2004, our two aircraft did not have them installed.
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:33 am

well just my experience of AC, the flight attendants were all far from modern it looked like something out of a saga brochure. And as for their attitude it was just rude, my bag strap had found its way into the aisle which i hadn't noticed and i got one hell of a shouting at by one of the crew as if she had foiled a secret plot to trip everyone over. And i have not flown BA so i have nothing to compare it with. sorry guys
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting 757lgw (Reply 24):

One minor incident like that from one individual is insignificant.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:19 am

Quoting BOE773 (Reply 21):
Then those 'frocks' are another thing to have to look at for 8 hours!

I guess you haven't flown BA or been to an airport for a long time ! Those *frocks* are long gone and replaced with a very nice new uniform ..... get to an airport and take a look !
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:26 am

I'll be happy to fly any other airline for experience and comfort, its been so long since I was on BA probably in early 80s. So much have changed. I've always love flying different airlines besides AC. I will always flly AC but there are times I will have to fly other airlines which don't bother me at all.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:08 pm

All good Canadians should boycott BA and fly their own carrier, Air Canada.
Why fly an old legacy carrier, (ba) that continues to fly old beater 747s when they can fly on more modern Air Canada metal. And, Air Canada will have new Boeing Dreamliners many years before BA ever gets around to ordering modern aircraft.
 
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RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:32 pm

I suppose someone has broken a few forum rules:

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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:05 pm

    cloudyapple, you must be an ex islander from the kingdom?
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:26 pm

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 30):
    cloudyapple, you must be an ex islander from the kingdom?

    What kind of a remark is that?

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 28):
    All good Canadians should boycott BA and fly their own carrier, Air Canada.
    Why fly an old legacy carrier, (ba) that continues to fly old beater 747s when they can fly on more modern Air Canada metal. And, Air Canada will have new Boeing Dreamliners many years before BA ever gets around to ordering modern aircraft.

    I don't understand posts like this, the 747 makes money which is the most important thing for BA, it serves them well. It's not the fact that the 747 is old its the product inside that is what matters.

    I've personally not flown either carrier but obviously you don't like BA so you just bash them. That will really get you far.
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:25 pm

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 9):
    BA do not operate two flts per day to YVR.

    So, next time I see speedbird 85 overflying my house on its way to 26R, I'll just say to myself: dejavu

    Just kidding, BOE773. In my opinion, the sharpest-looking 744 @ YVR.

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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:03 pm

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 28):
    All good Canadians should boycott BA and fly their own carrier, Air Canada.
    Why fly an old legacy carrier, (ba) that continues to fly old beater 747s when they can fly on more modern Air Canada metal

    If BA can fill a B744 then they should use it. If AC use smaller aircraft they obviously have a lower market share. This implies that more people prefer BA to AC. Am I wrong?

    Also, please forgive me as I am not au fait with AC's history. However being as established national flag carrier I would have presumed that it was a legacy carrier too!
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:47 pm

    I think BOE773 may be just winding some people up here. I have flown on both Carriers longhaul, and for me it would be B.A every time. I have also worked on both Airlines, and as for the IFE, the B.A Rockwell collins TES system is a lot more reliable than the Sony P@ssport system on AC. As for the old beater 747s, they may be older than AC 330s and A340s, but they sure look a lot neater inside.  Wink
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:55 am

    AC will have new Dreamliners long before BA has any and these will be a far superior product to ride on. Now how do you islanders get around this one and make BA 'thee only airline in the world'?

    By the way, I much prefer Air France's color scheme with straight lines on the tails instead of BAs squiggles!
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:59 am

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 35):
    By the way, I much prefer Air France's color scheme with straight lines on the tails instead of BAs squiggles!

    LOL. Yeah, coz the squiggles on the tails dictate airline choice. Well, maybe if you're a retard...but give me a break  rotfl 
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:17 am

    Quoting LTU330 (Reply 34):
    I think BOE773 may be just winding some people up here

    I think you're right. He has just posted another silly one!

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 35):
    AC will have new Dreamliners long before BA has any and these will be a far superior product to ride on

    If BA had the B787 they would not use it to YYZ as they can fill a B744! AC's on board service must be dire if they need to operate a B787 sized plane on such a route as YYZ-LHR!

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 35):
    Now how do you islanders get around this one and make BA 'thee only airline in the world'?

    Why do we want to do that? I like competition! Personally I'll take the most convenient flight from MAN, which long haul tends to exclude BA.

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 35):
    By the way, I much prefer Air France's color scheme with straight lines on the tails instead of BAs squiggles!

    Yeah, you must hate the modern Delta tail too then! personally I like it!
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:17 am

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 28):
    All good Canadians should boycott BA and fly their own carrier, Air Canada.

    What happened to freedom of choice? lol. I'm Canadian and fly LHR - YUL, YYZ - LHR every year for my Christmas holiday. I've done the route with AC, BA, and via BOS/JFK with AA. IMO I'd take BA hands down every time. I hate to say it but I'd fly AA again before flying AC. If you think BA's 747's are "old" you should take a look at the inside one of AC's 767's

    [Edited 2006-07-23 19:19:34]
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:25 am

    Quoting Challiday (Reply 38):
    If you think BA's 747's are "old" you should take a look at the inside one of AC's 767's

    correct, those are clapped out old ex cai 767s. but they are getting their extreme makeover.
    wait until the 787s come on stream, man those should be dreamships to sail thru the skies.
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:39 am

    It's always fun to watch a bunch of people try to make an objective point on issues that are subjective at best!
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:40 pm

    So how did the 3x daily to YVR end up in something like this? I can't follow after reading the posts how it ended up this way.
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:53 pm

    Quoting GBOAC (Reply 36):
    Yeah, coz the squiggles on the tails dictate airline choice. Well, maybe if you're a retard...

    High-Five  highfive 
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:21 pm

    Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 23):
    Do some B747's still not have the PTV's in World Traveller? Last time I was on them in 2004, our two aircraft did not have them installed.

    Anyone know if some of BA B747's still have no PTV's?
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:29 pm

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 9):
    BA do not operate two flts per day to YVR.

    Er Yeah they do!

    Quoting GBOAC (Reply 12):
    Laugh of the day for me, thanks. Man, you're really on form with your posts today, eh? Is BA Price Fixing? (by BOE773 Jul 22 2006 in Civil Aviation) is another good example. Thanks for lightening the mood

    I know, God he never takes the hint does he. Every single thread on BA contains some sort of cynical comment from this guy. Whats your problem with them?

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 11):
    Air Canada if a far superior product to BA out of YVR.

    Bollocks!

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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:30 pm

    Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 43):
    Anyone know if some of BA B747's still have no PTV's

    All BAs longhaul aircraft including the 767 have PTVs. The first aircraft to have AVOD, a 767, has just come online. Every passenger has a personal screen and with AVOD will soon be able to do what a lot of other airlines already do with their systems.
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:31 pm

    Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 43):
    Anyone know if some of BA B747's still have no PTV's?

    All of the mainline longhaul fleet have PTVs in all classes.
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:38 pm

    Quoting GBOAC (Reply 46):
    All of the mainline longhaul fleet have PTVs in all classes.

    Thanks for the update!  Smile
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:00 pm

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 13):
    Air Canada is a reinvented carrier much more modern than BA.
    Try them, you'll like them.

    Mate you're dreaming. Flown both a number of times... including YVR-LHR on a number of occasions, and AC plainly sucks. They just don't have it when it comes to long haul service. Bad enough on sectors of 2 - 3 hours.
     
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    RE: BA 747-400 (3 Of Them In YVR In One Day)

    Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:09 pm

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 28):
    All good Canadians should boycott BA and fly their own carrier, Air Canada.

    Hmmm, my 'good Canadian' friends prefer to fly either American or British Airways across the pond. AA for Y class, BA for J class. They actually have quite a strong dislike for Air Canada, citing their shoddy service, french-only speaking crew (they do speak English, they just choose not to), high fares, uncomfortable seats (but BA's Y class isn't much better in all honesty) and not particularly pleasant food. Of course, each to his or her own, it's all subjective.

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 28):
    Why fly an old legacy carrier, (ba) that continues to fly old beater 747s when they can fly on more modern Air Canada metal.

    Surely Air Canada is also an 'old legacy carrier'? Old 767-300's aren't particularly pleasant, at least with BA you get either a B747-400, (some were only delivered in 1999) or a B777-200ER with 3 or 4 class onboard product.

    Quoting BOE773 (Reply 28):
    Air Canada will have new Boeing Dreamliners many years before BA ever gets around to ordering modern aircraft.

    Thats very nice for Air Canada, but British Airways didn't become the worlds most profitable airline in recent years by jumping the gun and ordering aircraft that are, as yet, unproven. Of course, you're aware that BA is also close to a major order, and already has build positions reserved on the Boeing line for B777's which can be used for either any B777-family aircraft or or converted to B787's.

    Of course, I'm biased, as BA's customers now pay my salary, however, they've only done that for 18 months. previously, I used to fly 150-200k miles per year on business to North America on a multitude of carriers. AC (along with several others) would not be my first choice of carrier.