BH346
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Delta Concorde?

Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:16 am

I just read in a book that Delta leased A Concorde(I'm not sure how many Concordes) like Singapore Airlines did. First of all, is this true? If so, what years did the Delta Concordes fly, and what routes?

BH346
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sccutler
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Naah...

Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:19 am

..the only US carrier to operate the Concorde in scheduled service, was Braniff.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
Neo
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:19 am

IS that so????? i think it's hard to happen , 'till we'll see.

i don't know anything about it, but it would be cool to have more airlines flyinng concordes!
 
Rotate777
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:20 am

Delta never had Concordes.
 
baconcorde
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:21 am

I don't think that this ever happened or will, its highly impractical for Delta to run Concorde's.
 
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Braniff Concorde

Fri Jun 23, 2000 12:34 pm

Braniff never ran a concorde. They had plans to, but that never got off the ground (literally and figuratively). IF you don't believe me, check it out on their website. WWW.braniffinternational.org it is a VERY cool site for those of us who miss the bygone days of elite air travel and the golden age of aviation.
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Fri Jun 23, 2000 10:18 pm

Hello.

I think that we can expect that DL will soon code-share on the AF flights between CDG and JFK with Concorde.
Don't forget that DL and AF are the launch members of Skyteam, and that they said that they want to expand their partnership.

 
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RE: Braniff Concorde

Fri Jun 23, 2000 10:35 pm

I'm surprised to learn that the Braniff Concorde flights never eventuated as commented upon by AA737-823. I have a copy of Braniff's magazine, Flying Colors Vol8 No1 which features on the front cover a touched up photo of a Concorde in Braniff colours over some mountainous desert area. While I realise Braniff never flew Concorde in their colours I was led to believe that AF and/or BA Concordes did for a short time operate Braniff services within the US.
At the aviation museum at Love Field in Dallas I met an elderly fellow who told me he was one of a very few American pilots who were licensed to fly Concorde and he did so for Braniff. I have no reason to not believe him.
I've put all of the above to print before checking the site to which AA737-823 has referred so clarification may await me there. Just wanted to put forward the info I have. Cheers,
Michael.
PS I do consider myself very, very fortunate to have flown from LHR to JFK onboard BA Concorde G-BOAA a few years ago. It was an amazing experience!!
 
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RE: Braniff Concorde/About The Book

Fri Jun 23, 2000 11:38 pm

The book I read was pretty-old looking. I'm really sure that this book was created after the DL-AF partnership. The book is called "The World's Worst Aircraft".
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Sat Jun 24, 2000 3:56 am

Hello,

There has been some rumors about a ATL-CDG Concorde flight on code-share AF-DL... Impossible, the Concorde has already some payload restrictions of... 50%! on CDG-IAD.

But it has been reported in the French media that Delta Air Lines was asking Air France for a code-share on the CDG-JFK, and Air France would ask for more connections at JFK in exchange.

However, nothing has been reported since (6+ months ago).

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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Braniff Concorde

Sat Jun 24, 2000 2:04 pm

Sorry, AA737, but BN did operate the Concorde. It was not in BN livery, and was domestic leg DC-DFW only, but they were operated as BN flights, w/ BN crews.

At DC, a transfer of the aircraft was made to BN (to avoid the cabotage problem), and then transferred back to Speedbird (or was it AF?) at the conclusion of the round trip.

Of course, never done supersonic, and terribly inefficient. Done for prestige, at a time when BN couldn't afford symbolic gestures.

Remember, though, that this was still when BN was the only airline at DFW with enough traffic to have its own terminal, and it was nice.

Of course, AA had Sabre, and used it to good advantage in its competition w/ BN. But that's another story.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Sun Jun 25, 2000 12:29 am

The BN Concordes were co-operative flights between BA and BN, a through service LHR-IAD-DFW (not sure if it was Dallas or Houston - everyone seems to think DFW so I'll go with the flow) BA a/c flown by BA crews to IAD then BN people took over for the remainder. You could buy a though ticket - such arrangements were once common, Pan Am and Delta had a similar arrangement through IAD too (with 747's).

Unlike SQ, whose joint BA Concorde service saw planes painted one side BA and the other SQ, no Concorde ever appeared in BN colours. On a technical point they couldn't as Concorde must be painted white if it's to fly supersonic in order to reflect radiation at 60,000 feet (like the Space Shuttle). The only Concorde to ever fly without a base white colour scheme was an AF plane on lease to Pepsi, which was limited to flying sub sonic at low normal altitudes.
 
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RE: Delta Concorde?

Sun Jun 25, 2000 7:18 am

Heres are a couple of photos of the concorde at DFW operated by Braniff :


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