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Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:17 am

Hola Amigos,

They always have those Aviation in India / Ireland / Brazil / Australia / Hawaii ... threads, so I decided to start one about Ecuador where we can discuss anything of interest to civil aviation in this small country. (And the only place where you can fly as a passenger on a 721, F28 and Hercules in one day)

First of all, I was wondering about the fleet status of TAME. Have they received all of their Embraers yet? How far are they in their process of gaining CAT 1 to operate flights to Miami again? Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

Also, I'm interested to know the status about the new airport at UIO. When I worked for EMSA a year ago, all they did was slowly postpone the date from 2008 to 2009 to 2010.

Saludos!
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:23 am

Hi Soren
Can't answer any of your questions I'm afraid, but your comments do take me back to October last year, and my flights to and from the Galapagos on those 721s. She really did take a long time to get airborne fron the high altitude of Quito! When she did get off the ground though it was very very quiet.
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:06 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

It still does to Colombia, though it would be ideal to see more frequencies on the market.

Regarding Ecuador-Colombia flights, AeroGal is supposed to be flying to Bogota and Medellin, the company's first two international destinations, since July 10. They should be flying UIO-BOG twice daily, GYE-BOG once daily, and UIO-MDE twice weekly. Can anybody confirm they are doing so?


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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:28 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
First of all, I was wondering about the fleet status of TAME. Have they received all of their Embraers yet? How far are they in their process of gaining CAT 1 to operate flights to Miami again? Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

Tame 727-100, OUT, HC-BLE is out of service now and wont fly again. No more 721's in Ecuador.

Tame has

2 B722
2 F28MK4
2 EMB170
2 A320
1 EMB 190

And thats it. Tame plans to fly to CARACAS, miami.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Also, I'm interested to know the status about the new airport at UIO. When I worked for EMSA a year ago, all they did was slowly postpone the date from 2008 to 2009 to 2010.

Quito's New Airport Ready By 2010 (by MaverickM11 Jul 25 2006 in Civil Aviation)

There you go. new topic about this "GREAT" new airport

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 2):
Regarding Ecuador-Colombia flights, AeroGal is supposed to be flying to Bogota and Medellin, the company's first two international destinations, since July 10. They should be flying UIO-BOG twice daily, GYE-BOG once daily, and UIO-MDE twice weekly. Can anybody confirm they are doing so?

Tame flys to CALI daily I think. Aerogal startd flights to bogota yesterday, twice daily and also 2 times a week to medellin. Thats all I know about aerogal


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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:48 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame plans to fly to CARACAS, miami.

Excellent news. The route CCS-GYE-UIO deserves competition. Do you know how in Santa Barbara doing in that route? I think they are flying 5 times a week.
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:07 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame flys to CALI daily I think.

It's only three times a week, unless they changed it very very recently.

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):

I see. Almost 15 days after the initially planned launch date then.



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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:46 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame 727-100, OUT, HC-BLE is out of service now and wont fly again. No more 721's in Ecuador.

Now that is sad, I was planning a trip to Ecuador in September (not for reasons of aviation) during which I was kinda hoping I could fly on her--probably just as well as my trip has been postponed to February 2007.

Oh well, there is still CP-861 in Bolivia operating for LAB, quite possibly the last 721 in all of Latin America flying passengers (just think how many there were barely two years ago!).

Saludos,

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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:48 pm

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame 727-100, OUT, HC-BLE is out of service now and wont fly again. No more 721's in Ecuador

That's really sad. So is BLE going to be scrapped, or put into the static collection of the FAE at Mariscal Sucre (unlikely, because of the space?) or is she going to keep flying for the FAE as an executive transport? From all I knew, and from the various flights I've been on -BLE and -BLF (rest in peace), those 721s were in great shape. While it may be true that TAME has lost a considerable amount of planes in crashes during the last couple of decades, I believe that none of these were lost due to technical faults.

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame has

2 B722
2 F28MK4
2 EMB170
2 A320
1 EMB 190

Is this final, or are they receiving any more in the future? That's a lot of new metal there, 5 brand new planes. But I see a shortage coming, when the Embraers replace the Fokkers and the 727-100 and the A320s do the Galapagos flights, there's need for at least one more A320 or 722 sized plane for the proposed CCS flight.

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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:08 pm

Hi!

This getting exciting, South America at their best! Well maybe only in Ecuador you can fly has a passenger the 721, but in Colombia I saw a few 721's still flying strong. LAS have at least 2 around: HK-4401 and HK-1273, and I also noticed an AEROSUCRE 721 but I couldn't get an hold on the registration. It was amazing in the morning, you could listen to those engines and you imediatelly knew that it was a 727 flying around! Simply great!
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:06 am

This is a great thread!! Glad someone started it!
I am wondering what are the news from Icaro? Are they planning to go International? I heard somewhere they were planning to start flying to the US... Anyways, is sad to see the B721 go, but the new EMBs are soo nice... super quiet! About time we see newer planes flying around...

Quoting CV990 (Reply 8):
in Colombia I saw a few 721's still flying strong. LAS have at least 2 around: HK-4401 and HK-1273, and I also noticed an AEROSUCRE 721

As I think you tried to say, in Colombia you still see a few B721 flying around, but as cargo if I'm not mistaking...
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:49 am

Quoting CV990 (Reply 8):
AEROSUCRE 721 but I couldn't get an hold on the registration.

WOWOW! IS that the one with the Thumb on the tail? I wonde what ever happened to HK-727. The flying museum! That 727 has some hisotry, or had???

Quoting Atnight (Reply 9):
they were planning to start flying to the US.

Theres a charter to orlando in a few days, nothing else so far  Sad
 
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 7

Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:58 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

Peru and Brazil as well, IIRC.

One other thing worth noting, unless things have changed. It's the only place I know of where you can fly a commercial flight(C-130) with a USAF pilot on duty at the controls. When I was living down there, there was always a USAF pilot with the milgroup assigned to help with flying their C-130s.

I even had a chance to take a C-130 to Galapagos (they were even going to let me jump in from the ramp!) but had to pass due to work.

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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:59 am

Since it is very complicated to get detailed info from TAME website, can somebody help me to know what routes are operated by E-jets. TAME schedule info does not include type of aircraft used on particular route.
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:47 am

Hi!

After what Airportmanager said about AEROSUCRE 721 I feel REALLY guilty I didn't got the registration and a photo of the plane!!!
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:56 am

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 12):
can somebody help me to know what routes are operated by E-jets. TAME schedule info does not include type of aircraft used on particular route.

Tame flies Quito - Tulcan - Cali (its only regular international route as far as I know) in a Embraer 170, three times per week.
 
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:10 pm

Great thread, I was actually considering an Ecuadorian trip this fall, also because Avianca has interesting fares from Miami to Quito.
Soren, I remember last year you went on the Fairchild F-27 of Petroecuador. I will try and get on that one, you or 'Airportmanager' have an idea if it still operates? Which days would be best to try?
The Hercules pax flight would be absolutely great as well, what routes? Do they have a ticket office at the airport?
Any other suggestions of do's and don't there, other rare routes, types and airlines?
Even If I only manage to get on half of the 722, F-28, F-27 and C-130 I'll have a great trip.
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:52 pm

Quoting Clo1973 (Reply 14):
Tame flies Quito - Tulcan - Cali (its only regular international route as far as I know) in a Embraer 170, three times per week.

What the hell they do with E-jets rest of the time
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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:10 pm

Ex AV HK727 is still flying with Aerosucre with its thumb up livery on the tail.

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RE: Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)

Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:12 am

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 16):
What the hell they do with E-jets rest of the time

Umm TAME, the airline, doesnt only fly to CALI, so, they use the ejets on other routes such as

San Cristobal (Galapagos)
Baltra (Galapagos)
Cuenca
Guayaquil
Nueva Loja
Manta
Esmeraldas
Panama (Charter)
Tulcan

Quite good I say

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