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Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:54 pm

Kingfisher (IT) have been ridiculed (somewhat) for buying 5 x A330-200, 5 x A350-800, 5 x A340-500 and 5 x A380-800. I'm not sure the sniggering is deserved but they appear to be adopting a similar eccentric policy regarding engines.

Their A350s will have GE (assuming the order for the previous version of A350-800 is converted to the new one and assuming that GE continue to offer the GEnx on it).
Their A340s only come with RR.
And now they've selected PW for their A330s.

So, without further orders, they'll have 5 widebodies with PW, 5 with GE and 5 with RR. I'm sure they know what they're doing but it does seem an unnecessary and avoidable extra cost.

So, we should assume they'll choose the EA GP7200 for their A380s to complete the set?
 
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:02 pm

Yes, very peculiar indeed.
It's nice to see PW get some new orders on the 330.
I guess GP for the 388s, and, (if they get them) RR for the 350-1000, that would be the icing on the cake! =)

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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:43 pm

Keeping the same manufacturer across different engines doesn't really have any benefit. There is no commonality between engines from same manufacturer for A330, A350, and A380. There are just no interchangeable parts. So why not take the best deal you can get?
 
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:14 pm

They should get A320's with IA and get some B737 with CFM's! They will operate a little engine museum on the side.

On a more serious note, I would assume it is easier to work with one engine manufacturer just to keep the services eaiser. It is probably easier to train your workers and MX crew.
 
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:25 am

Quoting GEnxPower (Reply 3):
They should get A320's with IA

They already have. Lots of them!

Quoting Aviator27 (Reply 2):
Keeping the same manufacturer across different engines doesn't really have any benefit.

You may be right but...

Quoting GEnxPower (Reply 3):
I would assume it is easier to work with one engine manufacturer just to keep the services eaiser. It is probably easier to train your workers and MX crew.

That would be my guess too. It certainly seems to be the case that airlines often tend to stick with one engine supplier where they have a choice.
 
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:51 am

Interesting to note Kingfisher operates their A320s powered by V2500s,Where as most operators out here are opting for CFM56Bs after their Initial Aircraft on V2500.
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:20 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
most operators out here are opting for CFM56Bs after their Initial Aircraft on V2500.

You're obviously thinking of Indian Airlines but who else has made the switch? IndiGo, for example have chosen IAE.
 
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:13 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 6):
You're obviously thinking of Indian Airlines but who else has made the switch? IndiGo, for example have chosen IAE

IC & GOair some Aircraft currently.
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:49 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
GOair some Aircraft currently.

The first three leased GoAir aircraft have V2500's but the 30 new planes they're buying will be CFM56 powered. However, the point has to be made that India is such a huge market that most engine manufacturers are looking up at setting maint and overhaul stations here - GE is already talking about one in DEL thanks to the AI order and this will also benefit all CFM56 operators and 9W thanks to the 777-300ER and A330 orders. Kingfisher opting for Pratt's on the A330 is surprising because it seems that PW engines had almost gone out of style on that aircraft, great for Pratt since they've not been in the best of form after the AI 744 order. Even RR needs to work a bit on the Indian market.
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RE: Kingfisher's Engine Choices

Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:36 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 8):
Even RR needs to work a bit on the Indian market.

RR is certainly lacking within India market and they are trying hard to penetrate into the market. Recently, RR did a study on India's market to study a possibility of a new engine overhaul base (currently in Asia Pacific, they have one in Hong Kong, HAESL, and one in Singapore, SAESL). They study concluded there is no prospoect in short to medium term to open up new overhaul bases as they simply do not have enough RR engines operating there.

IMHO, Kingfisher A340-500's engine will be overhauled at either HKG or SIN.

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