|Quoting Stl1326 (Thread starter):
haven't heard much about AirTran lately. I thought they were adding a lot of planes to their fleet but they haven't added any new cities or point to point routes in a while. I was wondering what their growth plans are for the future and what we could see in the short term.
|Quoting Quickmover (Reply 1):|
I believe they have done ok, but are missing out on alot of opportunity in light of some of the legacy pullbacks. Yes, you can keep capacity out and achieve higher fares for awhile, but eventually if you don't put seats back into the market, the competition will. They have missed some big openings to capitalize on gaining market share. CLT and PHL were prime for poaching, but now B6 has a foothold in CLT and WN has cleaned up in PHL. I believe a little more aggressive approach in either city might have kept the LCC competition out or at least delayed it.
|Quoting Stl1326 (Thread starter):|
I haven't heard much about AirTran lately. I thought they were adding a lot of planes to their fleet but they haven't added any new cities or point to point routes in a while. I was wondering what their growth plans are for the future and what we could see in the short term.
|Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 5):|
In 2006 so far, we added SEA & HPN! We are still taking delivery of brand new Boeing 737-700s. I'm glad PHL is doing well for WN. Lets face it, any of these big Northeast cities are weather and ATC delay Fuster Clucks especially during the long hot humid summer months. Here at BWI are flight load is scheduled to increase as we head toward 2007. Rumor mill has it, we are going to get a direct BWI-LAS route. Sometimes holding for a bit is prudent especially with volitale fuel prices and the precarious situation in the Mid-East and other world events all have ramifications in regard to our industry. Though MIA has somewhat prohibitive fees/rates, I'd still like to see us FLbeef up our MIA station. So far, we are the only one of the BIG 3 Lcc's to have a presence at this gateway to much of the world. And best of luck to WN and US in CLT.
|Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 3):|
They still fly to PIT so I am assuming you are referring to expanded service?
|Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 8):|
Yea I am referring to expanded service. It is just they have such a minute presence there, it's almost as if it really wouldn't matter if they did up and leave all together...
|Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 2):|
I am sure that if they did want to beef up any service, it would likely be at either BWI or IND in my opinion. Each could focus as a mini-hub. I actually think that would be perfect if FL wants to go international, as in transatlantic. BWI would be their gateway and IND could have a route or two as well...
|Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 10):|
BTW, rumor has it possibly Colorado Springs; I've also heard Phoenix.
|Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 17):|
But it really does make you wonder about if Boeing had kept the 717 alive. They were planning a stretch version and I am sure AirTran would have been interested.
|Quoting BatonOps (Reply 21):|
Maybe they will decide to come back to MDT. We where so close earlier this year...three days from the big announcement.
|Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 15):|
Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 5):
Big three what?
|Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 16):|
-Expansion largely east of the Mississippi River.
-Expand in existing cities..Get as big as you can in your city. (Use gates to the max)
-LAS/LAX Solid Market, Very profitable
-ATL flight increase in September from 225 flights currently to about 235 flights in September.
-September...2nd weakest month of the year. Seasonally slower month.
-HPN is looking pretty good, trying to get the word out.
-Strong bookings for August and September.
-International codeshare possible.
|Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 17):|
If they are expanding in existing cities, I wonder what that means for Cleveland. Right now they have service out of CAK, which is going to be great for me when I come home from Kent. You get to avoid all the craziness of CLE and it seems that AirTran really rules the place.
|Quoting Congaboy (Reply 20):|
How about this...AirTran has very recently moved to the Humphrey Terminal at MSP, where they can grow to some degree (and no doubt getting favorable rates). You also have at MSP an airline in deep, deep trouble trying to hold their fortress hub. Currently AirTran has service from MSP to MDW, ATL, MCO. Why not expand to other AirTran feature cities from MSP, like BWI, DFW, IND? I would think NW is unchallenged to or at least charging big fares to these cities...why not get a piece of that?
|Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 27):|
Well, they are fighting hometown LCC Sun Country in the humphrey, so that'll limit their growth potential from MSP.
|Quoting Congaboy (Reply 29):|
Not so sure, Dreamliner....SY is going to different places. I would say together, SY and FL are causing more and more headaches for the Eagan-based airline. So, I still say FL has a nice opening in MSP.
|Quoting Stl1326 (Thread starter):|
I thought they were adding a lot of planes to their fleet but they haven't added any new cities or point to point routes in a while.
|Quoting KSUpilot (Reply 33):|
It would make sense for them to go with something smaller like ERJ-145s or 135s.
|Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 23):|
At least in the USA when you think of the big 3 LCC's you think of us and those other 2 fellow carriers!
|Quoting Bnamaxx (Reply 37):|
They were here briefly doing a daily rotation to GPT some years back.
|Quoting Iowaman (Reply 38):|
You know what would work at an uncongested airport would be either OMA or DSM.
|Quoting FI642 (Reply 41):|
I bet AirTran would also like a few more gates at BWI for expansion too.
|Quoting Midway2airtran (Reply 36):|
The next phase of growth will be fun to watch, I feel it may involve a merger too with some alliance building/joining of some sort as mentioned some in the thread already. I would see a merger as being on a higher scale than Sun Country or Midwest; actually much larger.
|Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 13):|
We lost money last quarter
|Quoting Zippyjet (Reply 42):|
You know it! We just have apply with the state and see what we can add on junky Concourse D which is dire need of rennovations and beefing up the ancient 70s era air conditioning!
|Quoting Thering (Reply 44):|
What is the difference between AirTran Airlines and Airways?
|Quoting Vatveng (Reply 47):|
I believe AirTran Airlines is the original AirTran that existed before the merger, and AirTran Airways was ValuJet.
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