swank300
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UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:12 pm

Just checking the UA website for Dec flights back home to SFO and I noticed that as of Oct 10th, they've added a late night flight (8:50pm) and UA has combined its 5:30 and 7:00pm flights into a 6:10 departure. What do you thinks this means? I know AA also has either 7 or 8 flights per day to LAX, is this a matter of overcapacity? Any thoughts are welcome!
 
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RE: UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:55 pm

i don't know what your asking?
 
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RE: UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:18 pm

Quoting Swank300 (Thread starter):
I know AA also has either 7 or 8 flights per day to LAX, is this a matter of overcapacity?

AA has eleven daily non-stops.
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RE: UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:07 pm

Quoting Swank300 (Thread starter):
added a late night flight (8:50pm) and UA has combined its 5:30 and 7:00pm flights into a 6:10 departure. What do you thinks this means?

To me it just looks like they pushed the flights leaving JFK later back. This might be because it is being demanded. And traditionally I would assume that UA does better on JFK-SFO and AA does better on JFK-LAX.

Quoting Swank300 (Thread starter):
I know AA also has either 7 or 8 flights per day to LAX, is this a matter of overcapacity?

United's PS757s have a capacity far lower than the mainline 757s. Operating 7-8 757s with a capacity of 110 is not that much capacity. AA also have 762s, which aren't that large to begin with. New York and Los Angeles are the two biggest cities in the United States. Sure they are over 2000 miles apart, but they are both significant. If you compare air travel between the New York and Los Angeles airports to flights between major cities in Australia (Qantas has hourly service with mostly widebodies between SYD and MEL), Japan, Spain, Germany and many other countries, 20 flights between LAX and JFK isn't that much. Now when you fact or in jetBlue and Continental too, there is a lot more capacity.
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RE: UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:22 pm

Looks like United is simply dropping the extra frequency LAX UA26&31 which has been operating Mon/Wed/Fri. Otherwise the other current 7 LAX-JFK flights remain, while SFO-JFK seems to continue with the current 6 daily frequencies with only small changes shifts in departure time.

Really no big deal.
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RE: UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:59 pm

AN2MAYJFKSFO/AUA
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** SFO SAN FRANCISCO.USCA 278 WE 02MAY 0000
1 UA 005 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 SFO 3 645A 1005A E0.757 9 6:20
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 K4
2 UA 007 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 SFO 3 745A 1106A E0.757 9 6:21
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 A4 K4
3 UA 009 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 SFO 3 840A 1202P E0.757 8 6:22
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
4 UA 011 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 SFO 3 1130A 246P E0.757 8 6:16
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
5 UA 015 F4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 JFK 7 SFO 3 330P 646P E0.757 N 6:16
M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 K4
6 UA 905 F4 C4 D4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 JFK 7 SFO 3 615P 931P E0.757 3 6:16
U4 H4 K4
7 UA 017 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 SFO 3 815P 1131P E0.757 N 6:16
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4

7 Daily Flights

AN2MAYJFKLAX/AUA
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** LAX LOS ANGELES.USCA 278 WE 02MAY 0000
1 UA 021 F4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 JFK 7 LAX 7 700A 1007A E0.757 9 6:07
M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
2 UA 023 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 LAX 7 845A 1158A E0.757 8 6:13
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
3 UA 025 F4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 JFK 7 LAX 7 1145A 253P E0.757 9 6:08
M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
4 UA 027 F4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 JFK 7 LAX 7 200P 524P E0.757 9 6:24
M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
5 UA 029 F4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 JFK 7 LAX 7 415P 724P E0.757 7 6:09
M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
6 UA 839 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 LAX 7 610P 926P E0.757 N 6:16
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 A4 K4
7 UA 031 F4 P4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 JFK 7 LAX 7 650P 1008P E0.757 2 6:18
E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4
8 UA 033 F4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 JFK 7 LAX 7 850P 002A+1E0.757 5 6:12
M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 K4

8 Daily Flights


Total

15 Daily P.S. JFK-West Coast flights
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swank300
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RE: UA P.S. Drops A JFK-LAX And Adds A JFK-SFO

Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:01 am

No, no LAXINTL, UAL is adding a seventh daily fight to SFO ( the late dearture) . Maybe not a big deal for someone keeping an eye on LAX, but for SFO folks, it is a rather big deal to steal a flight from LAX.