nygfan84
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Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:27 pm

Hi I work for an airline and want to take a couple friends with buddy passes to HKG or SYD from LAX in January. My question is what are the load factors typically on those routes? Would I be able to non-rev 4 people on a flight? I think so, perhaps because there are like 4 or 5 routes a day to each. What day typically has the least amount of passengers usually? Thanks!
 
SeaMeFly
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:48 pm

Typically, you can only take friends to fly on your own airlines. At NW, we can only accomodate spouse, children and parents for interliners. Check with your own airline for their interline-agreement.
 
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:31 pm

I can't lend you too much help since it was in July, but on my recent flight on a Sunday from LAX to BNE, there were a fair amount of open seats. I'd say don't expect to sit together and expect the middle of the middle section!
 
bobnwa
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:50 am

Quoting Nygfan84 (Thread starter):
Hi I work for an airline and want to take a couple friends with buddy passes to HKG or SYD from LAX in January.

I could be wrong but I don't think any airline allows buddy passes from another airline. If it's your own airline you want to travel on, then you would know the loads better than we would.
 
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:14 am

Also, the Asian market is Very-Very hard to Non-Rev on. Most all aircraft are running full.
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:13 am

Every airline is different, I can take friends with me on a number of other airlines in addition to my own. Just depends on the agreements and then the station to station agreements.

NY: HKG may be tough. Loads are useally pretty good, but my friend is a Duty Manager here at LAX, so I'll ask him what CX loads look like. Now to OZ, its possible right now, but their warm season is around the corner. Again it depends on who you are flying on of course and what deals your airline and the other airline provide.

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bobnwa
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
Every airline is different, I can take friends with me on a number of other airlines in addition to my own.

I assume you work for AS. What other carriers can you take friends on with a buddy pass? That is a good benefit.
 
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:56 am

Besides loads, be aware that both nonstop Australia and Hong Kong services from LAX can be weight limited leaving non revs behind even with open seats. Airlines will often fill up any available free weight with cargo.
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nygfan84
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:59 am

Are my chances better from SFO??? Id rather go from LAX because its closer for me plus they have a lot more non-stop flights.
 
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:05 am

Nygfan84,

I assume you work for US. Check their policy. If you do work for US, you could probaly travel on Air New Zealand as they are ember of the Star Alliance. Check with your alirline.

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nygfan84
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:17 am

Thanks I didn't know that non-reving had to only employee deals with Star Alliance carriers, I thought it was more so a general broad agreement between airlines. I am kind of new about this. So I guess I could fly Singapore or Thai as well.
 
bobnwa
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting Nygfan84 (Reply 10):
Thanks I didn't know that non-reving had to only employee deals with Star Alliance carriers, I thought it was more so a general broad agreement between airlines. I am kind of new about this. So I guess I could fly Singapore or Thai as well.

I suggest you contact the pass bureau of the airline you work and get the correct info about pass travel. I still think you can't use buddy passes on another airline.
 
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:16 am

It would help if you told us for which airline you work; maybe someone out here works for the same and can tell you the policy. On UA, we could give buddy passes to friends, and we had a certain number of buddy passes with certain Star airlines, although I'm pretty sure that if you use a Star companion, the employee must travel as well. Also, I think, not sure, that you can take no more than two companions with you if you use UA buddy passes on UA. (I'm furloughed, so the policy may have changed.)

I flew SFO-SYD on UA back in 2000 (in the midst of the pilot slowdown). I had no problem getting on, but I do remember some companions did not get on b/c the flight was weight-restricted. If I recall, Australia flights from the US were often weight-restricted and the loads were not necessarily indicative of whether or not you'd get on. I've heard from friends at UA that Asia flights are very, very full this year. As Bobnwas says, best to check with your airline and ask your co-workers; they'll know best.
 
Slovacek747
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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:53 pm

Just flew from LAX-SYD a couple weeks ago and it couldn't hold one more person. I was on the 744ER so it was as full as could be so I'm not sure you would be able to make it to SYD as a non-rev

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RE: Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:04 pm

Just because a flight goes out full, does not mean non-revs didn't make it on the flight. I have made it non-rev onto flights that have appeared full when the plane left the gate, when in reality there were 15 open seats with 20 non-revs listed, therefore most made it on.

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