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Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:58 pm

Hello All

Was just on the Thai airways website and see that they will no longer be flying the 772 but the A346 on the JNB route anybody know why they have changed it.

thanks
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:16 pm

Well it could just be to meet demand.  boggled 
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:21 pm

I will believe it when I actually see a TG plane in JNB....


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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:57 pm

Don't Thai have B772ER on order?
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:28 pm

Quoting ZKNBX (Reply 3):
Don't Thai have B772ER on order?

No they don't have any outstanding Boeing orders. They do, however, have 1x A345, 1x A346 and 6x A380's outstanding.


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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:53 pm

As always with TG, we'll only know what it's really looking like once the first flight lands in JNB. Meanwhile, anything is in the cards. Remember that the BKK JNB service was announced twice before (once with MD11 and once with B744) and that it failed to materialize both times.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:59 pm

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 4):

No they don't have any outstanding Boeing orders. They do, however, have 1x A345, 1x A346 and 6x A380's outstanding.


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Not true, TG has 772ER/773ER aircraft on order, as well as the Airbus types.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:47 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 6):
Not true, TG has 772ER/773ER aircraft on order

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Unless the orders appear under IFLC or UFO, for which I humbly apologise if that indeed is the case, I don't see any active orders for TG with Boeing.


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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:56 pm

TG has a few 772ER on order, six as mentioned in below press release.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777...amily/news/2005/q1/nr_050126i.html

Deliveries will begin in August this year as per the press release. Unless something has changed since than, TG has the 6 772ER's on order.

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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:42 am

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 7):
Unless the orders appear under IFLC or UFO, for which I humbly apologise if that indeed is the case, I don't see any active orders for TG with Boeing

First, I made an error - Thai has 772ERs on order and not 773ERs on order, my mistake.

Second, the list you are referring to only lists orders placed by carriers during 2006, Thai placed the order for the 772ERs during 2005. That is why you did not find the Thai order on the list. (I have made the same mistake.)

Yes, it is odd that Thai ordered the A345/A346 and the 772ER during the same period.....and Thais fleet will now include the 734/743/744/772A/772ER/773ER/A300-600(PW & GE)/A333/A345/A346....not the most cohesive fleet, is it?
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:55 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 9):
Second, the list you are referring to only lists orders placed by carriers during 2006, Thai placed the order for the 772ERs during 2005. That is why you did not find the Thai order on the list. (I have made the same mistake.)

Thanks for that Dutchjet  Smile


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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:44 am

So that makes South East Asia non-stop to/from South Africa available through:

- TG JNB-BKK *
- SQ CPT-JNB-SIN *
- MH CPT-JNB-KUL
- CX JNB-HKG
- SA JNB-HKG *

Spoilt for choice, particularly if you're a Star Alliance member.

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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:51 pm

TG has 6 772ER on order the first two will be deliveries end of sept or beginning of oct.

The reason that TG will use A346 instead of 772 becourse they have to prove their ETOP capabilities with thai authority
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:55 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 9):
Thais fleet will now include the 734/743/744/772A/772ER/773ER/A300-600(PW & GE)/A333/A345/A346

you forgot the 773A Smile

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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:03 pm

The A346 funding the JNB flights will be funded by the aircraft currently used on the MEL sector.

The new B772ER will be deployed to MEL as of 1 Dec.

1 x B772ER to operate TG981/982 4 times pw.
1 x B772ER to operate the new delinked services which will replace TG993/994 that currently operates on BKK-SYD-MEL-BKK routing.

The new service will operate similar times as TG999/980

BKK 0800 << EURO AND INDIAN CONNECTIONS
MEL 2100

MEL 0045
BKK 0555 < ASIAN CONNECTIONS.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:52 pm

What frequency will the flight be?
AC/AA/UA/DL/B6/WN/US*/CO*/FI/BA/IB/AF/SK/LX/Sabena*/TK/LY/SA/MN/SW/AM/CE*/CX/CA/MU/JL/SQ/TG/MH/KA/5J
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:32 pm

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 15):
What frequency will the flight be?

Three weekly flights. Here's the press release:

http://www.thaiair.com/About_Thai/Ne.../Press_Year_2006/press0506_135.htm

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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:19 am

Whaaaat!!

267 seats in A346 in TG´s configuration? Why so little?

The a/c can take 350 + !!

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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:45 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 17):
267 seats in A346 in TG´s configuration? Why so little?

The a/c can take 350 + !!

60 J class, which I think is absurd.

But I think TG has got it right on the B772ERs.

30 flat bed J, and 262 Y class.

If I were TG, i would reconfig the A346's in the same manner.
get rid of 20-30 J class, and add another 60 Y class, to make it
8 F, 30 J, 260-270 Y class.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:30 am

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 17):
Whaaaat!!

267 seats in A346 in TG´s configuration? Why so little?

The a/c can take 350 + !!



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 18):
60 J class, which I think is absurd.

But I think TG has got it right on the B772ERs.

30 flat bed J, and 262 Y class.

If I were TG, i would reconfig the A346's in the same manner.
get rid of 20-30 J class, and add another 60 Y class, to make it
8 F, 30 J, 260-270 Y class.

The backpackers in Y don't pay as much as the business folks in J.

It's just an TG decision on how they think revenue will be maximized in a given market.
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:53 am

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 19):
The backpackers in Y don't pay as much as the business folks in J.

It's just an TG decision on how they think revenue will be maximized in a given market.

yeah, I agree, but TG is not really considered a premium carrier, so I think they have over-inflated J class seats.

Thailand as a destination is predominatly leisure, and between Europe and Asia TG competes with numerous premium carriers including SQ, CX, QR and EK.

What i'm saying is that the J class capacity is not really suited to their market profile.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:55 pm

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 7):
Unless the orders appear under IFLC or UFO, for which I humbly apologise if that indeed is the case, I don't see any active orders for TG with Boeing.

Funny thing that. I checked the other day for the SQ order for B77W AND it also is not listed on the Boeing website. I wasn't aware that SQ B77Ws would be leased. Can anybody confirm details?
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:07 pm

Quoting ZKNBX (Reply 21):

Funny thing that. I checked the other day for the SQ order for B77W AND it also is not listed on the Boeing website. I wasn't aware that SQ B77Ws would be leased. Can anybody confirm details?

I think you should read a little further on.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 9):
Second, the list you are referring to only lists orders placed by carriers during 2006, Thai placed the order for the 772ERs during 2005. That is why you did not find the Thai order on the list. (I have made the same mistake.)

As to SQ i doubt that many of the 77W's will be leased will they? Most if not all will be brought outright i'd think.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:17 pm

NBT thanks 4 the pointer. Couldn't agree more... why would they lease? On a separate, but related note, has OKF been put into revenue service yet?
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:43 pm

Quoting ZKNBX (Reply 23):
OKF been put into revenue service yet?

Yep operated NZ85 AKL-HKG on Tuesday 25th July as its first flight.
 
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RE: Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route

Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:38 pm

Could the A346 be used to due ETOPS areas over the Indian Ocean. I don't think they can make an emergency at Diego Garcia. Just curious. I do remember seeing an SQ 310 at MRU when they first started the route. I had dinner with a British Airways captain who was on loan to Air Mauritius to fly the 707 and he even stated that he was surprised to see the 2 engine airplane fly the route to asia. However, nowdays I believe MK flies the 767 to many places in Asia. Just wondering if anybody knows if they have to make any large deviations to their flight plan when flying ETOPS over the Indian Ocian.
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