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Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:35 am

No story on it yet, but it being scrolled on the TV here on the local news of this TV station.

http://www.fox2ktvi.com/

Nothing on the crash as of yet. Evidently happened around 14:00 local time.

Little tid bit on an AA757 emergency landing in STL as well. Try to find the error on that one.  

ANother link from a locoal station.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=101117

[Edited 2006-07-29 23:37:22]
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:09 am

That sucks. many people often don't care about small aircraft accidents. Condolences to all those affected
 
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:24 am

Am I going crazy or does that look like a Twin Otter?? Much skydiving in the St. Louis area?
 
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:33 am

Compared to that fire engine it doesn't look like a light twin.
 
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:05 am

so sad!! what type of airplane was it ?
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:10 am

The info that I read was that it was a plane used for skydiving.
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:58 am

If that was a Twin Otter as the tail section looks vaguely like, it could be N181CS as it's the only Missouri registered Twin Otter.
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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:10 am

Update...

On the Houston Chronicle site, they have the aircraft listed as a Twin Otter indeed. Checking the Skydive Quantum Leap dot com website, under equipment, it shows a photo of N203E which color wise matches the plane in the crash photo. N203E had been based at DeLand, FL for quite a while as I remember photographing it there back in 1995!

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RE: Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead

Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:23 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 6):
If that was a Twin Otter as the tail section looks vaguely like, it could be N181CS as it's the only Missouri registered Twin Otter.

Not very relevant, most skydiving operations operating Twotters and CASAs lease them from one of several companies based in AZ, CA, NY, FL, and NC. The demand is very seasonal and this keeps them from making payments on the a/c during slow summers for the deep south or slow winters for the north.

Any word on the condition of survivors? Typical load for a Twotter is 20-22 jumpers so I'm assuming that most survived. Scratch that, news report I just found shows that a/c was taking off with only 8 on board, fatality count is now at 6 and one of the two remaining survivors is critical. Very sad.

People often joke about "Why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane" without realizing that the aircraft takeoff is about as dangereous as the jump.

The Twotter is very reliable and easy to fly under normal conditions but can be quite a bear in an engine out situation, particularly if it occurs immediately following takeoff. The news report indicated that there was some form of problem with an engine visible to those on the ground - not very specific. This a/c should be able to easily climb with only 8 on board although it is possible that the a/c was in town only for the weekend and crashed on takeoff for a ferry flight and could have been loaded down with gear, fuel, etc.

The only other reason I can think of for the a/c to take off with so few on board would be if it was a team training flight as Quantum Leap does a fair amount of this type of business and sometimes the teams will pay extra to take the a/c when there's not a full load just to keep their training going.

My condolences to the families and friends. I know what they are going through as I've lost several friends in plane crashes and have been fortunate enough to survive one personally as well.

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