centrair
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UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:30 pm

This is a continuation of the discussion about UA giving DL their LHR slots.
But...looks at the statement in the Flight global article where they say:

Quoting http://www.flightglobal.com:
Separately, United last week unveiled an expanded schedule for Asia, which will add 40 more weekly, year-round flights and additional cargo capacity during the next nine months. This expansion includes the launch of service between Unitedfs Washington Dulles hub and Tokyo, and the reinstatement of its daily nonstop from San Francisco to Taipei.

IAD-NRT
SFO-TPE
and... other 38 are ...?

In the other thread someone mentioned but no one answered. What will happen to SFO-NGO-TPE if SFO-TPE goes non-stop. Is there that much market for SFO-TPE?
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:50 pm

Don't forget the flights between SFO and ICN, which have been uprated from seasonal daily flights to all-year-round.

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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting Centrair (Thread starter):
and... other 38 are ...?

40-14 = 26.

That would mean likely 3 more daily flights, and 5 additional frequencies per week on one of the routes or on another existing route?

Maybe IAD-NRT ends up 12 times weekly, for example...
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:09 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
40-14 = 26

I got routes and frequencies mixed in my head (Would love to see more Asian expansion).

So...
IAD-NRT daily
SFO-TPE daily
SFO-ICN daily

And someone gets additional frequencies. Possibly the IAD-NRT flight. or...who?
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:20 pm

Plus the three weekly flights added to SFO-HKG.
 
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:32 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
Maybe IAD-NRT ends up 12 times weekly, for example...

I know you were just citing an example, but NRT is heavily slot controlled, and IAD-NRT will take the JFK-NRT slot, so it will be daily service. The only additional flights from the lower 48 to Japan will probably come at the expense of Hawaii-Japan flights.

So with that said, are there still more flights that bypass NRT to come? How about LAX-HKG coming back? Both ORD and SFO have multiple flights to HKG. And what about the possibility of LAX-AKL returning since NZ might cut some capacity on that route.
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:37 pm

Nothing is happening to the NGO-TPE tag. The city pair is underserved by Taiwanese carriers and UA offers the largest cargo capacity on the route with the 777, enjoying loads that are consistently heavy due to great automotive and semiconductor industry connections. CX service varies between 777 and 330 throughout the year. Also there is no TPE service from JL and NH only operates the 73G.

If anything NRT-TPE will be dropped first.

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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:38 pm

Quoting Centrair (Thread starter):
Is there that much market for SFO-TPE?

BR operate 12 flights a week and CI 7, so UA obviously want some of the action. maybe someone will start flights from San Jose.
 
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:41 pm

Quoting Centrair (Thread starter):
This is a continuation of the discussion about UA giving DL their LHR slots

Erm! No way! UAL are not giving away their LHR slots!!! (That wouldn't be allowed under Bermuda II anyway)

UA is SELLING his JFK-LGW-JFK slots to DL!

Just thought it was quite an important point to make!
 
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:53 pm

Quoting AlanUK (Reply 8):
Erm! No way! UAL are not giving away their LHR slots!!! (That wouldn't be allowed under Bermuda II anyway)

UA is SELLING his JFK-LGW-JFK slots to DL!

Just thought it was quite an important point to make!

Actually, it is that United sold Delta the underlying route authority to serve the New York-London market - United isn't selling any slots to anyone!
 
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:05 am

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 6):
Nothing is happening to the NGO-TPE tag. The city pair is underserved by Taiwanese carriers and UA offers the largest cargo capacity on the route with the 777 and loads are consistently heavy due to great automotive and semiconductor industry connections. CX service varies between 777 and 330 throughout the year. Also there is no TPE service from JL and NH only operates the 73G.

CI have a daily A333 and a 744F weekly
 
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:08 am

SFO-HKG - 3x week additional
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:14 am

where are they getting the planes for all this, are there still some parked 744s???
 
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RE: UAL Adds 40 Weekly To Asia

Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Reply 9):
Actually, it is that United sold Delta the underlying route authority to serve the New York-London market - United isn't selling any slots to anyone!

I believe they are leasing the slot at LHR to Air Canada. United has leased LHR slots to LH too.

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 12):
where are they getting the planes for all this, are there still some parked 744s???

I bet there is a bit of flexibility in that United still has some domestic runs with widebodies. There aren't that many left any more on routes between the hubs, but there probably could be some more widebodies pulled off of domestic runs.
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