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Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:57 am

I know here in SBN we get a 727 and 2 Caravans, I know the 727 goes to MEM, but might someone know where the Caravan's go, or why they are even there? Are there other small airports that have this same operation?

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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:29 am

In Michigan at FNT in particular there are always two 727s and one Caravan. The Caravan goes north to APN and back. One 727 goes to FWA and then on to MEM I believe. The other goes to IND.

Its possible that your caravan goes to some small airport before returning.
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:04 am

the caravans, operated by mountain air, go to indianapolis at night. both fly mon-thurs, only one flies on friday. they typically transport medical supplies
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:12 am

You should see GFK. I would qualify this as a small airport, but FedEx practically has a hub there for caravans and other associated small equipment
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:13 am

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 1):
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Sometimes two caravans...a couple of weeks ago there were three three-holers there. I think the main reason is the GM parts warehouse in Swartz Creek, about one mile west of the airport. There are lots and lots of Chevy parts in that huge building and Im thinking FEDEX must of got the contract to fly parts out of there every night...you take your 1999 Chevy to the shop tomorrow and the parts guy says we have to order the part...now you know where it comes from...
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:24 am

Location, Location, Location...

And Landing fees.

ABE, in Pennsylvania, gets two 727's daily (well, nightly, as they come in after dark and leave before dawn). It is close to PHL without having the congestions and fees that PHL has, I assume that's the reason.

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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:58 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 5):
ABE, in Pennsylvania, gets two 727's daily (well, nightly, as they come in after dark and leave before dawn). It is close to PHL without having the congestions and fees that PHL has, I assume that's the reason.

But FedEx still has a somewhat sizable operation at PHL, including widebodies, so that can't be the entire reason...
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:01 pm

Here in SYR we get a FEDEX A300 to MEM, a 722 the we share with BTV that goes to EWR and a few caravans that go to plattsburgh and possibly elmira.
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:25 pm

Here in GRR we have 6 or so CSA Air ("Iron Air") C208 Caravans operating as FedEx feeders. This morning I counted 4 operating GRR-TVC, and 2 operating GRR-PLN.

GRR gets 2X weekday A310 to/from MEM, and 1X weekday A310 to/from IND. One of the two MEM flights is occasionally a 727F.


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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:33 pm

Quoting San747 (Reply 6):
But FedEx still has a somewhat sizable operation at PHL, including widebodies, so that can't be the entire reason...

Guess not!  Smile

Thanks for the clarification. My theory just got demolished. Maybe people in Allentown just LOVE getting packages!

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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:15 am

Quoting San747 (Reply 6):
Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 5):
ABE, in Pennsylvania, gets two 727's daily (well, nightly, as they come in after dark and leave before dawn). It is close to PHL without having the congestions and fees that PHL has, I assume that's the reason.

But FedEx still has a somewhat sizable operation at PHL, including widebodies, so that can't be the entire reason...

One very probable reason I want to throw out there is that the greater Lehigh Valley is a large business and industry center, located as it is midway between NYC and PHL and at the crossroads of the PA Turnpike (476) and Rt. 22.

A few notable companies with headquarters and offices here: Lucent and it's spawn Agere, Air Products, OraSure, Bethlehem Steel (back in the day...), and the newest and biggest--Olympus, with their new North American headquarters at Stabler Center.

Given all that, having direct, localized air freight service is probably a good thing, as it keeps the transit times down (imagine all those packages having to be trucked to PHL, EWR, or JFK every day...), keeps the volumes down at said airports, and, as ANITIX87 noted, it's just cheaper to land a plane here.


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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:17 am

If FX can land the A/C cheaply and within an economically viable distance for their trucks to load and ship out they will.
If they had large operations over in the UK, they would probably put a few caravans into Booker in Wycombe.
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why

Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:18 pm

Here at PWM we get either two 727's, or one 727 and an A-310 daily. One going to MEM and the other PWM-BOS-EWR. There are also about 5 Caravan flights per day connecting smaller towns from Northern Maine with Fedex Mainline. The primary reason Fedex operates these flights is in support of L.L. Bean and thier mail-order business. I've been told L.L. Bean products are 50% of whats on the outgoing flights here.

On a side note, I know that FX has a contract with the USPS to transport a large portion of the mail, and that in recent years the passenger airlines have been carrying less. Perhaps this increase in USPS cargo has called for more capacity in some smaller markets as well?
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:59 pm

Quoting PWM2TXLHopper (Reply 12):

On a side note, I know that FX has a contract with the USPS to transport a large portion of the mail, and that in recent years the passenger airlines have been carrying less. Perhaps this increase in USPS cargo has called for more capacity in some smaller markets as well?

Goooood call!  bigthumbsup  That's gotta be a part of it. I know I've seen plenty of mail trucks at the FX facility at ABE--didn't even think of it vis a vis this thread. It makes great sense, too.


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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:17 am

TVC should really have a 727. I know you guys down in GRR are quite happy with getting the slew of Caravans though. I am sure a 727 flying out of TVC would fly directly to MEM.

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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:36 am

Is there such a "Thing" as a FedEx Route Map?

I'd love to see it!

One time I counted 11 Caravans among 2 DC-10s, an MD-11, 2 727Fs, and an A310 at Oakland. I could only guess where they were all headed!
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:07 am

MDT gets an A-310 from MEM and a 727 from IND.

We get one Caravan at night from IPT and one from AVP. The Caravans then depart for ABE and EWR. One Caravan returns in the morning from EWR prior to the jet arrivals. It then departs to IPT.
 
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RE: Multiple Fed Ex Planes At A Small Airport? Why?

Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:09 am

IPT is Williamsport, PA. I guess like MDT it doesn't rate a mouse over.  Smile