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Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:13 am

The long rumored RJ purchase:

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=8/3/2006&id=9540


Regional carrier Midwest Connect said today it has signed letters of intent to buy two Fairchild regional jet planes, expanding its fleet to 12.

The Fairchild 328JET aircraft were formerly operated by Atlantic Coast Airlines, the company said.

Midwest Connect's 328JET aircraft are configured with 32 reclining leather seats, offering single seating on one side of the aisle and two-across on the other.

"The 328JET is an excellent fit for many Midwest Connect markets," said David C. Reeve, chairman of Skyways Airlines, which does business as Midwest Connect, in a statement. Skyways is a division of Midwest Air Group (MEH), based in Oak Creek.

 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:22 am

Do they intend to add cities or frequencies?
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:54 am

Press Release Source: Midwest Airlines

Midwest Connect to Expand Its Regional Jet Fleet
Thursday August 3, 1:21 pm ET

MILWAUKEE, Aug. 3 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Skyway Airlines (dba Midwest Connect) today announced that it has signed letters of intent to acquire two Fairchild 328JET regional jets. The aircraft were formerly operated by Atlantic Coast Airlines.

The acquisition will expand Midwest Connect's fleet of regional jets from 10 to 12. The airline's 328JET aircraft are configured with 32 reclining leather seats, offering single seating on one side of the aisle and two-across on the other. They feature flight attendant service, lavatory and overhead storage, as well as the widest and tallest passenger cabin in their class.

"The 328JET is an excellent fit for many Midwest Connect markets," said David C. Reeve, chairman of the board for Skyway. "These acquisitions provide a great opportunity to expand our service on these customer-friendly aircraft."

The airline plans to put the planes into revenue service after completion of maintenance work, refurbishment and painting in the Midwest Connect livery.

Terms of the agreements were not disclosed.

Skyway Airlines, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Midwest Airlines. Operating as Midwest Connect, the airline offers connections to Midwest Airlines as well as point-to-point service between select markets on regional jet and turboprop aircraft. Together, the airlines offer service to 47 cities. More information is available at http://www.midwestairlines.com .

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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:19 am

I hope they add a city or 2 and more importantly one of them being PVD.

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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:43 am

I imagine these 2 jets are going to supplant the now 3 1900s that have left the fleet since November, stretching ops to the max. I would think it's more likely to see existing Beech routes upgraded rather than new routes created just yet.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:53 am

To: All Skyway and Midwest Airlines Employees
Date: August 3, 2006
From: David Reeve, Chairman of the Board -- Skyway Airlines
Subject: 328JET Fleet

I am pleased to share the great news that we have signed a letter of intent
to acquire a 328JET regional jet. Additionally, we are beginning
negotiations to acquire a second 328JET. This would expand our fleet of
regional jets from 10 to 12.

Both aircraft were formerly operated by Atlantic Coast Airlines under a
codeshare agreement with Delta Airlines.

On the first jet, we have completed the technical inspection and records
review, and only need to complete a purchase agreement to finalize the deal
-- a process we expect to complete in the next 45 days. After completion of
maintenance work, refurbishment and painting in the Midwest Connect livery,
we hope to put the plane into revenue service later this year.

We will inform you of the status of the second jet as we progress through
negotiations.

At this time, our plan is to use these aircraft in existing Midwest Connect
markets.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:05 am

Parts must be expensive for these since they are no longer in production. But I do favor them over the CRJ-100.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:34 am

I'm sure Mesa would make them a sweet deal on all the other DOjets sitting in MYR from the ACA days. There has to be at least 20 of them down here, along with some painted in US colors that appear to be given an engine run-up about once a week.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:54 am

I very much hope they do a little backfilling on markets being cut in September when they go down to eight lines of BE1 flying.

MQT drops to 2x/day, and one of those is shared with IMT
DSM drops to 3x/day (2x FRJ 1x BE1)
GRB drops to 5x/day
CWA drops to 3x/day, and some of thsoe are are poorer times than prior.
MSN loses the 7:05am flight to MKE and instead gets a mostly worthless 8:25pm flight.

Ideally the first FRJ takes over St Louis, and with the freed up BE1 time they at least get MQT and CWA back to normal.

Even with the planned 50-seat RJs coming online sometime in 2007 (most likely) they could still use at least at least a couple more FRJ's beyond this 12. Many of the current BE1 markets will stay and be upgraded to FRJ, but not all the current FRJ markets should be upgraded to CRJ or ERJ.

Also, a 32-seat RJ at Kansas City might open up some markets which might be on the thin side for a 50-seat RJ like MCI-CMH. Not sure if they ever intend on the FRJ being in MCI, but I suppose it's possible.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:08 am

darn it - I can keep on hoping though...
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:40 am

what ever happend to thier ERJ order i remeber a while back b4 the bankruptcy they ordered some ERJs but havent herd anything about that
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:11 am

Quoting Airislife (Reply 10):
what ever happend to thier ERJ order i remeber a while back b4 the bankruptcy they ordered some ERJs but havent herd anything about that

YX cancelled the order. They never were in bankruptcy.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:15 am

Quote:
Also, a 32-seat RJ at Kansas City might open up some markets which might be on the thin side for a 50-seat RJ like MCI-CMH. Not sure if they ever intend on the FRJ being in MCI, but I suppose it's possible.

Has there been any discussion inside Midwest concerning the possibility of establishing a MCI-CMH route? I know the airport authority here in Columbus has been pushing for nonstops to Kansas City for years, and with Midwest's large, growing operations at MCI and the existing O&D between the two cities, I definitely think Midwest would be the one to make it work. As it currently stands, roughly 80 people fly between Columbus and Kansas City a day. With nonstops, I'd imagine the market stimulation would bump that figure to around 100 people per day. If Midwest could capture just half of that, with two daily 328JETs, they would fill over three quarters of the plane. The remaining seats would be filled with connecting traffic. I'm certain Midwest could make it work, especially with all the incentives the CRAA would throw at them for starting one of their most sought-after routes.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:36 am

I've never hear MCI-MCH specifically mentioned, but when you look at the MCI stats, I think Columbus is in the top 5 possible markets when the RJ's come. If I had to rank them in order of likelihood:

MSY
AUS
COS
PIT (replacing the 1x 717)
CMH

The wildcard in this derby is if they choose to invade someone else's market with RJ's, like MCI-MSP or MCI-DFW. I'd be very surprised if they don't add at least one or two new cities like Austin, but they might choose to use some of the upcoming RJ lift in large monopoly markets from MCI.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 13):
PIT (replacing the 1x 717)

Is this for sure, or are you just guessing, because from what I hear, the B717 goes out full on most days. Just what I hear though!
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:19 am

I thought MidEx asked Air Wisconsin and ExpressJet to bid on all of MidEx regional flying???
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:19 am

Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 15):
I thought MidEx asked Air Wisconsin and ExpressJet to bid on all of MidEx regional flying???

Nonononono....

The RFP Midwest put out (to all regional carriers, not just ZW and XJT), was for additional flying. They have no intention of getting rid of Skyway. Skyway will fly the 328JETs and the third-party carrier will operate the 50-seaters (CRJ/ERJ).
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 14):
Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 13):
PIT (replacing the 1x 717)

Is this for sure, or are you just guessing, because from what I hear, the B717 goes out full on most days. Just what I hear though!

Complete speculation -- no word on this whatsoever. MCI-PIT runs pretty full now (although not quite as full as most other MCI markets) but it did very poorly over winter and into early spring.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 17):
no word on this whatsoever. MCI-PIT runs pretty full now (although not quite as full as most other MCI markets) but it did very poorly over winter and into early spring.

I am glad they gave the route time to catch on instead of just pulling it from the network. I think for having five flights a day, and having almost no recognition from Pittsburgh travelers, a 60-80% load factor is pretty good. They should have advertised the service on one of the billboards in Robinson Twp. as WN does and DH did. I think the O&D numbers between PIT and MCI are pretty high now. I know the traffic is there!
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:06 am

what are your thoughts on a PVD-MKE run when (if?) they get some 50 seaters? PVD-MCI (while a long RJ leg) might work too...
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:10 am

How about dropping an RJ into Syracuse? I heard it was a real pain to try and get there when we were having our heavy checks done in RME.
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:25 am

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 19):
what are your thoughts on a PVD-MKE run when (if?) they get some 50 seaters? PVD-MCI (while a long RJ leg) might work too..

I think YX would expand on the BDL market before expanding into PVD, but that's just my thought.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:26 am

There about 30 Dornier 328Jet avaible (former Atlantic Coast Jet [flyI]). Which two would go to Skyway Airlines?
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:38 am

Well from a fuelers standpoint I am not too hapy about this. 328Jets are horrible little planes to fuel, expecially durring the winter months, at least at my home airport.

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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:47 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 14):
Is this for sure, or are you just guessing, because from what I hear, the B717 goes out full on most days. Just what I hear though!

Their traffic has gone up quite a bit over recent months. I doubt they will downgrade and get rid of the B717.

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 18):
I am glad they gave the route time to catch on instead of just pulling it from the network. I think for having five flights a day, and having almost no recognition from Pittsburgh travelers, a 60-80% load factor is pretty good. They should have advertised the service on one of the billboards in Robinson Twp. as WN does and DH did. I think the O&D numbers between PIT and MCI are pretty high now. I know the traffic is there!

And I agree with everything you said here. Thoe billboards have helped WN. There numbers are growing fast. I hope they aquire new gates soon. The traffic and pax are here.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:06 am

SDF currently gets the BE1 and I would love to try Midwest sometime but I refuse to fly the BE1 up to MKE to connect. So maybe, just maybe, SDF will see the 328Jet sometime in the future.

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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting UPSMD11 (Reply 25):
SDF currently gets the BE1 and I would love to try Midwest sometime but I refuse to fly the BE1 up to MKE to connect. So maybe, just maybe, SDF will see the 328Jet sometime in the future.

The BE1 isn't a bad little aircraft to fly on short legs...but MKE-SDF is pushing it. Hopefully you guys will get lucky and see one over there.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:06 am

Quoting Luketenley (Reply 24):
And I agree with everything you said here. Thoe billboards have helped WN. There numbers are growing fast. I hope they aquire new gates soon. The traffic and pax are here.

WN is gaining PAX fast, but they aren't adding destinations or gates. It doesn't make sense to me!

Latest WN PAX numbers at Pittsburgh International:

June 2006:

US Airways: (485,978) (53.13%)

Southwest Airlines: (116,825) (12.77%)

Delta Air Lines: (65,078) (7.11%)

These are the top three carriers at PIT as of June. Midwest Airlines ranks tenth at PIT out of twelve carriers. WN has hit an all-time high and most carriers are seeing increases. I wish YX the best of luck in Pittsburgh.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:42 pm

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 27):
WN is gaining PAX fast, but they aren't adding destinations or gates. It doesn't make sense to me!

You don't think they should or you don't understand why they haven't added?
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:25 pm

Actually I'm quite surprised that midwest hasn't looked into adding an additional route to upstate ny, they go to cleveland, skip 3 major population bases (buf roc syr) and then go straight to ny metro-bos-bdl. I'm sure the load factors are there. BUF would be a pain because of WN. ROC has a lot of room and sits inbetween BUF and SYR (ideal spot because its only a 1 hour drive from buf and about an hour 20 from syr).
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:16 am

I actually could see them opening up OKC, although, without the Do328Jet. It's pretty close to MCI so , if TUL can support YX, OKC Can, OKC is alot bigger than TUL. With some gates opening up when DL moves to its permanent gates. There will be 3 available open gates. Quick taxi times in OKC means they could turn quick, although, I don't think they will come here.

How many does the 328jet hold?

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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting Jetmatt777 (Reply 30):

How many does the 328jet hold?

328Jet is 32 passengers.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:05 pm

Since when did YX start TUL service?
 
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:21 pm

Quoting Stock1985 (Reply 32):
Since when did YX start TUL service?

My bad, I thought they had service to TUL. Just checked and no, they don't. Sorry.
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RE: Midwest Connect To Add 2 Regional Jets

Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:20 pm

They even operate the Be-1900 to STL.



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