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EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:25 am

EK7 inbound to LHR crashed into Jet-bridge in one of the gates at the new Pier in T3 and opened a hole in the wing.

EK8 canceled............

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:26 am

Not good. Type of aircraft?
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:29 am

WOW... must be the daily 773ER from Dubai, I was on the MIA bound BA 744 the other day and that aircraft was next to us in T3... Sad incident!
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:32 am

Actually I just looked it up..it's an A332.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:34 am

It was the A330!!

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:37 am

Any pics? are we talking about a small hole or a big gash? Any idea how long this a/c will be out of service? I would assume that the repair could be done at LHR or could it be flown out (if possible) to an Airbus facility?
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:39 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 3):
Actually I just looked it up..it's an A332.

Correct, the EK007/008 rotations are flown by the 332's  Smile

Do you have a source, not that I'm doubting your or anything, just wanted to know where yon heard this info?  Wink

Any futher info?

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:40 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 5):
I would assume that the repair could be done at LHR or could it be flown out (if possible) to an Airbus facility?

I would think it could be repaired at LHR, depending on the size of the incident! I'm not sure who would do the repair work, but the Bmi facility can handle/do handle A330's  Smile

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:44 am

No mention of it on the BAA web site. It looks like a morning arrival flight so if it happened then it happened early Wednesday mornig (London time).
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:58 am

No pics sorry, but it looks like the size of a football!

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:23 am

Whats damaged the Slats or Wingtip.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:47 am

My guess knowing those stand pretty well is that someone did not check that the jet bridges were parked correctly for the stand prior to selecting the guidance lights on.

Those stands can have 2 narrow bodied a/c, or 1 wide body on each stand. The parking positions for the jetbridges are different depending what stand config is in use so it is essential to ensure the bridges are parked correctly before the a/c pulls on.

Either that, or as is usual, one of the bridges was out of service and not parked in any of the parking boxes in which case it should have been marshalled onto stand anyway !!.

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:01 am

Quoting UA868 (Thread starter):
EK7 inbound to LHR crashed into Jet-bridge in one of the gates at the new Pier in T3 and opened a hole in the wing.

EK8 canceled............

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:58 am

I'm at the MX facility tomorrow on business, Maybe I can get a passing glance
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:28 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 7):
I would think it could be repaired at LHR, depending on the size of the incident! I'm not sure who would do the repair work, but the Bmi facility can handle/do handle A330's

The BMI hangar at London Heathrow doesn't handle A330s. BMI has no A330 routes from LHR. In fact, I personally have never seen a BMI aircraft in that huge hangar. Its always Cathay, South African, or some one else. Anyways, the only one in LHR who can fix Airbus widebodies is the Virgin Atlantic hangar. (by the way, the A340-300 and A330-200 wings are identical, so it should be no problem for Virgin).
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:27 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
(by the way, the A340-300 and A330-200 wings are identical, so it should be no problem for Virgin).

I think VS only do minor checks in LHR at their hangar, all their 744's go to AMS for major checks and the 340's are going to ZRH now to SR technics.

Just my 2 cents

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:08 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
. BMI has no A330 routes from LHR.

BMI do have A330 departures in the morning from LHR. Can the UK spotters comfirm this ? When I was at LHR spotting , I saw their bird taking off few days in a row in the morning.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
BMI has no A330 routes from LHR. In fact, I personally have never seen a BMI aircraft in that huge hangar. Its always Cathay, South African,

Doesn't SA send 744s and A340s and CX something of equal size? I think an A330 can fit compared to those 2.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:54 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
BMI has no A330 routes from LHR.

The fly to Mumbai definately with 330's from LHR.
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 1:33 pm

BMI's A330 hangar maintenance (light and heavy) is carried out by Monarch in Manchester.

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:07 pm

Quoting Piercey (Reply 17):
Doesn't SA send 744s and A340s and CX something of equal size? I think an A330 can fit compared to those 2.

No, I meant that BMI probably doesn't have the tools in the hangar to carry out A330 maintenance.

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 18):
The fly to Mumbai definately with 330's from LHR.

Ohhhh, right, sorry. So, they do have A330 service from LHR. However, that A330 works its way over to Manchester.

Quoting Panman (Reply 19):
BMI's A330 hangar maintenance (light and heavy) is carried out by Monarch in Manchester.

So, the EK A330 will likely be in the Virgin hangar.
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 3:42 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
BMI has no A330 routes from LHR.

As well as Mumbai mentioned above, BD has A330 service to Jeddah and Riyadh. The Doha services are operated by B767 on lease IIRC. Although the A330 maintenance may not be carried out there, they may well be able to service the EK bird as they handle the A340's of SA don't they?
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 4:00 pm

Flight is on its way back to Dubai now....departed LHR at 0658 according to emirates.com Would it be the same aircraft or a replacement?
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:24 pm

Did the aircraft hit the jetty, or the jetty hit the aircraft...there's a big differance..

I've done a few A330's jetty on the new 301-307 stands...and it's a nightmare.

The jetty's are a little wider and respond quicker than the old ones. So if the jetty hit the aircraft, I can fully understand how this happened.


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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:20 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 18):
The fly to Mumbai definately with 330's from LHR.

Thats true.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:45 pm

The repair was carried out by EK engineers who were flown over on EK005/03Aug along with the AOG spare,the aircraft ferried back to DXB the early hours of this morning.The aircraft A6-EAD was positioned at T5 for the repair to take place.
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:08 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 20):
Ohhhh, right, sorry. So, they do have A330 service from LHR. However, that A330 works its way over to Manchester.

what on earth? you obviously have quoted about bmi without knowing anything about them. The 330 has been based at Heathrow for nearly a year, and the aircraft based there does not go anywhere near Manchester unless its a tech swap.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:16 am

I was going to say before EKSkycargo370 provided us with the details, that they might not even use a hanger to fix it.

It is possible to do almost all a/c repairs out on the ramp as long as the spares and equipment is available.

That British Airtours L10-11 that ran off the end of the runway at LBA back in the 80's sat on the ramp for months whilst the repairs were carried out with not a hanger insight. All they did was erect a makeshift shelter around the fwd fuselage to protect the engineers from the wild LBA weather. They had to change the fwd nosegear and replace part of the fwd fuselage inside that thing.

Numerous engine changes have been performed on ramps throughout the world without the aid of a hanger too.

To use a hanger costs an airline mega $$$ especially if the airline/company that owns the hanger knows they will need to use it - supply and demand - the costs go through the roof.

Also why did everyone assume that it would be VS or BD's hangers ?. BA also have hangers too, and out of everyone they are probably the ones that would most likely be used if needed due to them having more of a heavy maintanence facilty and more toolage than then others do at LHR, and also more likelyhood of spare hanger capacity.

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Carledwards (Reply 26):
what on earth? you obviously have quoted about bmi without knowing anything about them. The 330 has been based at Heathrow for nearly a year, and the aircraft based there does not go anywhere near Manchester unless its a tech swap.

With a total of 3 A330-200s, and 1 767, BMI's long haul routes, LAS, ORD, IAD, Barbados, and Antigua are flown by A330s and are from Manchester. (with Riyadh, Doha, and Jeddah flown from Heathrow I think?)

http://www.flybmi.com
http://www.airlineroutemaps.com/

And for some weird reason, BMI's website, or even airlineroutemaps doesn't list Mumbai as a BMI destination. Are you people absolutely sure they fly there?

And Carledwards, you said your self, the LHR A330 doesn't go anywhere near MAN unless it is a tech swap. That is exactly what I said. (ok, I wasn't very clear). It was stated above in this thread, ALL BMI A330 maintenance is done in MAN.
 
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:16 am

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 28):
ALL BMI A330 maintenance is done in MAN.

I'm not sure it is - I thought they did it all in LHR, as tere were often positioning flights between MAN and LHR before BD offered any services ex-LHR. Though I may be wrong.

BD definitely fly to Mumbai.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:59 am

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 29):
I'm not sure it is - I thought they did it all in LHR, as tere were often positioning flights between MAN and LHR before BD offered any services ex-LHR. Though I may be wrong.

The only flights I'm aware that ever operated between LHR and MAN were when the A330's first came into service and they were using them on the LHR-MAN route for crew training purposes. I don't ever recall any operating into LHR for maintanence as Bmi do very little maintanence of their own eqp at LHR. Most of it is 3rd party stuff, and no heavy maintanence either.

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 30):
as Bmi do very little maintanence of their own eqp at LHR. Most of it is 3rd party stuff, and no heavy maintanence either.

So what happens in the 'BMI' hanger at Heathrow?

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:58 am

Quoting PurpleBox (Reply 31):
So what happens in the 'BMI' hanger at Heathrow?

Most of the stuff they do is minor 3rd party work for CX and SA whilst the a/c are on day stops. They also just use the stands outside as extra parking stands as it is cheaper for the airlines to use them rather than a hardstand in the central area. They also use the stands outside for a/c washing too.

They also do maintanence on some of their own a/c overnight, but no heavy maintanence as the hanger is not equipped for it.

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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:22 am

Our long haul routes are as follows...

MAN-ORD
MAN-LAS
MAN-BGI
MAN-ANU

All operated by A330 equipment.

from Heathrow...

LHR-BOM
Operated by A330 equipment
LHR-JED
Operated by the leased TUI 767

We dont fly to IAD anymore and Mumbai (BOM) is DEFINITELY a bmi destination and a very sucessful one at that. As far as maintenance goes, I dont know too much about that side of the business but I do know that one of our A330s recently completed a C Check in the Philipines.

Hope this helps.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:56 am

whats a hanger? coathanger?
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:05 am

Has this type of incident happened at T3 before?

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 14):
BMI has no A330 routes from LHR.



Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 16):

BMI do have A330 departures in the morning from LHR. Can the UK spotters comfirm this ? When I was at LHR spotting , I saw their bird taking off few days in a row in the morning.



Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 16):

The fly to Mumbai definately with 330's from LHR.

BMI flies to MAN, RUH, JED, and BOM from LHR with the 330.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:02 am

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 35):
BMI flies to MAN, RUH, JED, and BOM from LHR with the 330.

A330 to MAN.. not carrying PAX though.. if it is I'd love to know what turn this is and be on it ! But considering MAN is all but a dead flight now for an A320 there'd be even less point to putting an A330 on it, unless it was to swap the aircraft... and in doing so that'd be unpredicatble.
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RE: EK Incident At LHR

Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:38 am

Sorry, forgot about RUH.

As for A330 service to MAN, there is NOT a scheduled route that operates LHR-MAN using A330 equipment within the BD timetable. Trust me on this one.
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