adric10
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Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:45 pm

Hi all...

sorry if this has been posted before -- I checked the archives and didn't see anything, so here goes...

I'm curious how short-haul aircraft (717, turboprops, etc) get delivered to overseas destinations that otherwise seem to be out of their range? Like... How did HA get their 717s to the islands, since there's nowhere to stop between the west coast and Hawaii? Or is this within their range when the planes are empty? The same goes for turboprop aircraft... somehow they get across oceans, but how?

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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:48 pm

Quoting Adric10 (Thread starter):
How did HA get their 717s to the islands

Extra fuel tanks  Wink


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aircanada014
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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:51 pm

yeah it has been discussed many times before.
 
adric10
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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:51 pm

AHHHHH.... all of the mysteries of the world now seem clearer  Big grin
 
ltbewr
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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:22 pm

Extra fuel tanks, and where practical, 'island hopping'. Deliveries between the USA and Europe of small a/c may require fuel stops in Gander (Newfoundland, Canada), Iceland, and UK/Ireland, or even the Azores/Canary Islands. For the Pacific, that may include via Hawaii, and various small Pacific islands, if to the south Pacific. Eastern Asia may include Anchorage, South Korea. Special temporary certification may be required as to the extra fuel tanks, pilots qualifications, through inspection of a/c before and during the flight.
There have been several other threads on these subjects, including the delivery of general aircraft, with links as to when things go wrong which are facinating story.
 
B742
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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:28 pm

Most of the time aircraft just take loads of stops en-route to their delivery destination!

For example, recently a A320 was deleivered to Asiana, the route was as follows:

Hamburg Finkenwerder - Ankara - Karachi - Bangkok - Seoul

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jrosa
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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:50 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
There have been several other threads on these subjects, including the delivery of general aircraft, with links as to when things go wrong which are facinating story.

Does someone have the links?
 
vv701
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RE: Overseas Delivery For Short Haul Aircraft: How?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:49 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
'island hopping'

For example the EMB145s purchased by what was then British Regional Airways and is now BA Connect were routed SJK-REC-FEN-LPA-OPO-BRS-IOM (San Jose de Campos, Recife-Guararapes, Fenando de Noronha (all Brazil), Las Palmas (Spanish Gran Canaria), Oporto, Bristol, Isle of Man).

This was a three day trip with, for example, G-EMBX leaving SJK on 22 March 02 and arriving at BRS on 24 March. But this relatively long elapsed time was almost certainly down to there being just one flight crew on the ferry flight rather than the length of the journey. Interestingly, however, the trans-Atlantic island hopping takes a minor place to the positioning of the aircraft in Brazil in preparation for the over-water flight.

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