debonair
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AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:57 am

I found this text on the AeroSur web-page:
AeroSur ha completado su flota con 7 aeronaves: 5 Boeing 727-200, 1 Boeing 737-200, 1 Airbus 319.

To my information they have

6 B727-200:
CP-2422
CP-2423
CP-2424
CP-2431
CP-2447
CP-2462

1 B727-100
CP-2377 (still active??????)

3 B737-200
CP-2438
plus soon 3C-HAC and LV-VGF

Sorry another question, whats REGIONAL by AeroSur? a new company, a lo-co division??


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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:16 am

I am not aware of A319 at Aerosur , but it seems they have bought 1 A310 from Air Plus Comet , to start flights to MAD.
I believe it , when i will see it !!!!
 
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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 1):
but it seems they have bought 1 A310 from Air Plus Comet

I am not sure it is bought, I think it is leased from Air Plus Comet. Make more sense for a single ac.
As for the A319, never heard about it before.
 
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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:40 pm

I believe the Aerosur A319 that you are speaking of is the TACA codeshare that they use for LIM-LPB-VVI. I've flown that route a couple times. It actually uses a TACA plane (no Aerosur livery, only TACA's livery). They annouce the flight as a TACA flight from LIM-LPB and annouce it as a Aerosur flight from LPB-VVI but use the exact same aircraft.

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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 1):
I am not aware of A319 at Aerosur , but it seems they have bought 1 A310 from Air Plus Comet , to start flights to MAD.

Yes, you're right. The flights will make an stop in Fortaleza, Brazil, because the 313 not has enough range to catch MAD in a non-stop flight.
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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:26 am

Quoting Debonair (Thread starter):
To my information they have

6 B727-200:
CP-2422
CP-2423
CP-2424
CP-2431
CP-2447
CP-2462

1 B727-100
CP-2377 (still active??????)

3 B737-200
CP-2438
plus soon 3C-HAC and LV-VGF

Sorry another question, whats REGIONAL by AeroSur? a new company, a lo-co division??

CP-2423 has been sitting in EZE for over a year. She and sister -2424 were earmarked for the joint Argentine-Bolivian venture Aero Regional (founded on the ashes of TAN Neuquén, I believe) which never really got off the ground. For mysterious reasons, "Regional" stickers were applied to CP-2447 (which still operates for AeroSur), but I gather they are fairly meaningless. CP-2424 rejoined AeroSur's active fleet earlier this year.

CP-2431, to the best of my knowledge, has been stored at VVI since May 2005, awaiting a C or D-Check which is probably more costly than flying in another ex-MX 722 from Mexico.

CP-2377, the -100, was retired in February 2005, if I recall, and is also sitting at VVI.

Former Lapa LV-VGF will not be delivered as corrosion was found in her wingspar. The aircraft, Lapa's last major asset, has been sitting in a hangar in AEP with her tail protruding since February 2003, painted in Lapa's final colour scheme that never saw the light of day, which was very similar to AeroSur's (in preparation for the Bolivian airline's rescue of Lapa which in the end never took place).

AeroSur definitely have a 2nd 732 in service right now, registered CP-2476 (photo available on pp.net), though whether or not it is the former 3C-HAC I am not 100% sure (doesn't look like it's from 1969, does it?).

So AeroSur's active fleet is currently:

4 x B727-200Adv. (CP-2422, 2424, 2447, 2462)
2 x B737-200Adv. (CP-2438, 2476)
1 x B757-200 (N753NA, leased-in)
Plus the touristic DC-3...

Saludos,

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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:42 am

Does anyone know how 722 and 732 compare in operating economics for AeroSur? Of course, the 732 is less one engine to maintain, especially the tail-mounted one, less fuel burn and less one FE. But it's also less capacity and less reputation. Is the high altitude performance of the 732 comparable to the good old 722? On which routes are the current 732s used?

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I was on CP-2424 LPB - SRE this Feb., definitely one of my best aviation experiences so far. The captain and FO did really like to work on this beauty. But as time goes by, chances are good to see a "boring" A319 or 738 in 5L colors.
 
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RE: AeroSur Bolivia A319?Fleet?

Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting Jetfan (Reply 6):
Is the high altitude performance of the 732 comparable to the good old 722?

Certainly not! In fact, at 13,000ft the 727 is in a league of its own. Where possible I know that 5L keep their 732s out of LPB, deploying them more on the less risky VVI-EZE and VVI-GRU routes (also operated by 722s).

I know that when AR retired their 722s in 1997, only their three JT8D-17-powered 732s (LV-WSU, WTG & ZRD) were able to continue flying up to the Altiplano safely, and when these were retired circa 2001, the route was axed altogether.

There has to be a good reason as to why to date only two 732s have ever worn Bolivian registrations, and I have reason to believe it is to do with LPB.

Saludos,

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