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707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:21 am

This has probably been on here before, but try searching the word "Airplane" in the search section!

I read on the Internet Movie Database that they used a TWA 707 for the exterior ground shots in "Airplane". What TWA 707 was used? Did they use a 707 for interior shots?, it look like they did. The cockpit sure looks like a 707 too. When I went to Central Missouri State University they had a TWA 707 simulator and I used to like to sit in it, with a buddy, and do the roger, over, what's are vector Victor bit.
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
Did they use a 707 for interior shots?,

I don't know about all of them, but in some of them, its definately a model. You can see the wires if you look closely.  Wink The ones on the ground I'm pretty sure are a real plane (except for the 747 that crashes through the windows in the terminal  Silly).

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:30 am

The exterior shots were a real 707 but the cabin shot were a set.

The TWA terminal at LAX was used for the curbside, ticket counter, luggage claim and some departure gate shots.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:30 am

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):
except for the 747 that crashes through the windows in the terminal

They used that same shot in an episode of the A-Team.

The flying shots are definitely a model You really don't have to look all that hard to see the wire.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:37 am

Falstaff,

Not sure if you will find that info here or not, but you can bet you have opened the door for about a hundred quotes from the movie!
IIRC I don't think a reg# appears in any of the live aircraft shots in the movie.
Some TWA folks here might know.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:40 am

Thats is hard to imagine... I have been in some rough bars in Detroit. I mean so rough you had to get patted down before entering.

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:52 am

On IMDB under the 'Goofs' section someone said the cockpit on the movie was actually a DC8. Frankly I wouldn't be able to tell the difference...
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:56 am

Quoting VEEREF (Reply 4):
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):
its definately a model. You can see the wires if you look closely.

This was deliberate, of course.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:04 am

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 6):
someone said the cockpit on the movie was actually a DC8. Frankly I wouldn't be able to tell the difference...

I thought it was a 707 cockpit. I always think the 707 cockpit give away was the 1-2-3-4 fire indicators at the top center of the cluster. The TWA 707 simulator at CMSU had them there. I have never looked that closely at the movie, I will have to watch it and see.
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:40 am

My favourite scene in the movie:
Dean Martin returns to the cockpit, and grabs the control yoke (!) to swing himself into the captain's seat!
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:03 am

Quoting BA84 (Reply 10):
My favourite scene in the movie:
Dean Martin returns to the cockpit, and grabs the control yoke (!) to swing himself into the captain's seat!
Airport scenes were shot at MSP.
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Ummm different movie, although the one you're referring to certainly provided inspiration for the one being discussed in this thread.
 
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:45 am

Also, the engine noise heard throughout the movie is obviously that of a propellor airplane, as opposed to the jet it was supposed to be.

IDIOTS.

haha...i think that was deliberate actually. They wanted to get that old-tyme prop feel!


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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:46 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 9):
I thought it was a 707 cockpit. I always think the 707 cockpit give away was the 1-2-3-4 fire indicators at the top center of the cluster. The TWA 707 simulator at CMSU had them there. I have never looked that closely at the movie, I will have to watch it and see.

I thought I'd read in a previous thread about this that they used a CV 880 cockpit. I could be wrong.
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:05 am

Quoting 4holer (Reply 13):

I thought I'd read in a previous thread about this that they used a CV 880 cockpit. I could be wrong.

Thinking about that scene where they show a close-up of the instrument panel and then start panning to right (forever), there were enough instruments such that they probably edited footage of 707s, DC-8s, CV-880s, B-52s and a few other types together. Accordingly, everyone is correct...  Wink

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:21 am

IIRC, the PA voices used in "Airplane" are those of the people who did the
"the white zone" announcements at LAX. One of my all-time favorite films.
Check the director's comments on the DVD..lots of good stuff..
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 12):
Also, the engine noise heard throughout the movie is obviously that of a propellor airplane, as opposed to the jet it was supposed to be.

IDIOTS.

That was done intentionally.

That's the trademark Zucker, Abrahams & Zucker shtick. They also made Kentucky Fried Movie, Top Secret, the Police Squad movies, the Naked Gun movies, the Hots Shots movies and the Scary Movie sequels.

You see a common comedy style in all those movies.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:44 am

The cockpit used in the filming is stored at a place called Aero Mock-Ups, north of Los Angeles. I saw it there a couple of weeks ago, while helping out with a documentary being filmed there for Discovery Channel.

I have a photo, but it's not uploaded so I can't link to it here. If you'd like to see a copy, you can send me an email through my home page. The thing is in pretty rough shape, and is kept on a series of pallets in what is basically a parking lot.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:46 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 16):
You see a common comedy style in all those movies.

Watched Scary Movie 3 the other night with the kids, and when Charlie Sheen was standing in the middle of the trampled-down cornfield "wondering what it means" and the camera then pulled out into a wide shot and showed the crop circle message said "Attack here" with a huge arrow pointed towards his farmhouse. I was laughing so hard I had tears...  Wink
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:54 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 14):
I still chuckle at the engine's "A LITTLE HOT" light blinking on and off...

I like wash, spin, rinse...

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 15):
"the white zone" announcements at LAX.

I can't go to any airport and listen to the loading/unloading zone announcement without laughing.
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 11):
Ummm different movie, although the one you're referring to certainly provided inspiration for the one being discussed in this thread.

Ummmmm.... not really. While there may have been some similarities, 'Aiplane's' real inspiration came from a little known Canadian diaster flick called 'Zero Hour'. Intrestingly enough, 'Zero Hour' was written by 'Airport's' authour, Authur Hailey. The Zuckers and Abraham all acknowledge this on the 'Airplane' DVD.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051221/

Just check out Dana Andrew's character's name.....sound familiar? Sadly this classic has not been released on either DVD or VHS.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:27 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 12):
Also, the engine noise heard throughout the movie is obviously that of a propellor airplane, as opposed to the jet it was supposed to be.



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 16):
That's the trademark Zucker, Abrahams & Zucker shtick.

Airplane was based on a serious movie (can't recall the title) which itself was based on a stage play (I've read the stage play, it is remarkably similar--just sans the slapstick!). Both the first movie and the play took place on propliners, and Zucker wanted to use a prop for "Airplane", but the production company demanded it take place on a "modern" jet. Zucker obliged, but decided to use the sound effects of a prop as both a humorous touch and a statement to those who opposed his desire to use a prop.
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:31 am

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 16):
That was done intentionally.

I know...did you read the next part of what I wrote?
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:45 am

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 19):
I can't go to any airport and listen to the loading/unloading zone announcement without laughing.

I know what you mean, I wish they would introduce this to UK airports - the amount of people that park and wait at the offloading/pick up area's is unreal
 
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:48 am

Quoting Aviateur (Reply 17):
The cockpit used in the filming is stored at a place called Aero Mock-Ups, north of Los Angeles

Did they use it in any other movies? I was thinking like the Air Force One (707) scene in Superman (1978).
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:52 am

The aircraft used was a TW 707. the cockpit and cabin is that of a DC-8.

This is according to the Airplane! directors commentary and trivia on the special edition version.



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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:21 am

Quoting Dw747400 (Reply 21):
Airplane was based on a serious movie (can't recall the title)

Flight into Danger

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:29 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 12):
Also, the engine noise heard throughout the movie is obviously that of a propellor airplane, as opposed to the jet it was supposed to be.

IDIOTS.

haha...i think that was deliberate actually. They wanted to get that old-tyme prop feel!

According to the Zuckers they wanted to have the plane be a prop but Michael Eisner (before he went to Disney) said no since he felt it would be unbelievable. They went along with it and stuck in the prop sounds as an "up yours."
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:29 am

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:30 am

Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 26):
Flight into Danger

BZZZZ

Zero Hour.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:33 am

Quoting AirEMS (Reply 28):
Or how about Florence Henderson talking jive?

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:34 am

Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 26):
Flight into Danger

Are you certain? I don't seem to recall the Zuckers or Abraham mentioning this film. As stated above, 'Zero Hour' was the basis for 'Airplane'.

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:35 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 30):
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:36 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 29):
Quoting ShowerOfSparks (Reply 26):
Flight into Danger



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 29):
BZZZZ

Zero Hour.

Flight into Danger was the stage production, and that led to the movie Zero Hour, so you're both right, sorta. As I doubt the Zuckers ever saw the stage play and most likely saw the movie, I guess Zero Hour wound be a better answer...

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:37 am

Quoting AirEMS (Reply 32):
ahh I am put in my place

You just wait until Mr. Cleaver gets home...  Wink
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 33):
I guess Zero Hour wound be a better answer...

Never even heard of Flight into Danger til tonight. But the Zuckers recorded it late one night to get material for a Kentucky Fried Movie II.
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 35):
Never even heard of Flight into Danger til tonight. But the Zuckers recorded it late one night to get material for a Kentucky Fried Movie II.

I stand corrected. I re-read the imdb.com listing and saw that it was a teleplay, and not a stage play as I assumed.

Now, where would an old teleplay be broadcast such that they could record it pre-1980? When did Betamaxs come out?
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:53 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 36):
Now, where would an old teleplay be broadcast such that they could record it pre-1980?

I beleive this was 1977 they said, and IIRC they setup a TAPE recorder as the intention was to record the cheesiest commercials and make spoofs of them. They diddnt get many good commercials one night but they got Zero Hour and then went from there.

PS, just checked the DVD, it was 77 and it was a tape recorder
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:54 am

How about the scene when all the runway approach light suddenly go out . . . pan to Tommy holding an electrical plug that he just removed from a wall socket!!

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:58 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 36):
When did Betamaxs come out?

Betamax came out in 1976 or 1977. JVC introduced VHS in 1977. I had a 1978 Sony Beta, but traded it for a 1984 model because that one is stereo. I had a JVC VCR that had a date of manufacture of 10/77. It was huge. There are Umatic VCR tapes that date well before that. I managed a small (very small) TV station in college and we had some Umatic tapes that were recorded in 1971. Before that they had reel to reel video tapes. I know they were around in the 60s.

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:59 am

Quoting Hinckley (Reply 38):
Tommy holding an electrical plug

ah. thatd be Johnny.  Wink


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Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:17 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 40):
ah. that be Johnny.


The tower? Rapunzel! Rapunzel!

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:21 pm

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:23 pm

Quoting Falstaff (Reply 41):
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:06 pm

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:10 pm

I thought Airplane was based on The High & The Mighty.

The man's voice used to make the LAX white zone announcement is still used at LAX today.

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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:20 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 25):
the cockpit and cabin is that of a DC-8.

The cockpit is definitely a CV-880 simulator. The two dimming rheostats on each instrument panel always give away a Convair.


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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:25 pm

Quoting Falstaff (Thread starter):
I read on the Internet Movie Database that they used a TWA 707 for the exterior ground shots in "Airplane". What TWA 707 was used? Did they use a 707 for interior shots?, it look like they did. The cockpit sure looks like a 707 too. When I went to Central Missouri State University they had a TWA 707 simulator and I used to like to sit in it, with a buddy, and do the roger, over, what's are vector Victor bit.

The answer to your question is in the dialouge of the movie:
Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with a red stripes, curtains at the windows, wheels, and it just looks like a big Tylenol.

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I can't go to any airport and listen to the loading/unloading zone announcement without laughing.

Male announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a red zone.
Female announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a red zone.
Male announcer: The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: No, the white zone is for loading. Now, there is no stopping in a RED zone.
Male announcer: The red zone has always been for loading.
Female announcer: Don't you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for unloading.
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RE: 707 From "Airplane"

Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:24 pm

The cockpit section used in Airplane is in fact an 880. It is currently owned by the Air Hollywood movie studios in the City of San Fernando located north of of L.A. in the San Fernando Valley. They also own the Learjet cockpit and cabin used in the movie S.W.A.T. a few years back.

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Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:06 pm

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