Mason747
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Upgrades And Pilot Seats

Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:03 pm

Question. How does one get an unexpected upgrade in first class from a seat in economy? And do pilots get first class seats for a little fee or do they have to pay a full fare to get the extra service? Any thoughts.
 
dalb777
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RE: Upgrades And Pilot Seats

Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:11 pm

Economy overbooked, seats available in first is one possibility.

Once, I was on a flight from FRA to ATL. Our group had gotten to the airport a little later than intended. One family in our group had purchased their tickets separately from the rest of the group. So when they got to the gate, they found out that DL had overbooked coach, and got a free upgrade to BizElite.

This same think also happened to my parents on a TWA flight back in '96 on their way home from Rome. Bumped uo to first b/c coach was overbooked.
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RE: Upgrades And Pilot Seats

Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:12 pm

Quoting Mason747 (Thread starter):
How does one get an unexpected upgrade in first class from a seat in economy?

Not very often I would suspect. Domestic flights are going to have elite passengers getting the upgrades well before the huddled masses. Internationally it gets a little more sticky and is usually only done if Steerage is oversold and they have some space up front. Still, those seats will go to elites versus Joe Blow 9 times out of 10.

The gate agents have heard every reason in the book why folks should get upgraded and I'm sure they can call BS on most of them. Don't expect getting upgraded to a $8000 seat when you only paid a couple of hundred bucks for your LAX-SYD flight...just not going to happen...unless you have nudie pics of the gate agent or something.
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RE: Upgrades And Pilot Seats

Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:47 pm

Quoting Mason747 (Thread starter):
Question. How does one get an unexpected upgrade in first class from a seat in economy?



Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 1):
Economy overbooked, seats available in first is one possibility.

Bingo.

Quoting Mason747 (Thread starter):
And do pilots get first class seats for a little fee or do they have to pay a full fare to get the extra service?

Their seats for deadheading are generally covered in their collective bargaining agreements. No, they do not pay a fee.
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RE: Upgrades And Pilot Seats

Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:03 pm

I got an unexpected upgrade to First Class one time on NW of all carriers. I was flying from JAX to PVD via DTW. I had sat next to a gal on the flight up from JAX, and we decided to have lunch together while we waited for our connecting flights. As the time came for my flight to board I tried to end the date and go to the flight but she got real clingy and wouldn't let me go. I finally end up getting to the gate about five minutes before departure. They gave my coach seat to someone else, but since I showed up, they ended up giving me the only seat left, in First Class.

I doubt that will ever happen again. But that was quite a surprise.
 
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RE: Upgrades And Pilot Seats

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:46 am

Quoting Mason747 (Thread starter):
How does one get an unexpected upgrade in first class from a seat in economy?

On AS I've been upgraded free a few times. Always when I've been in the Boardroom, seeing what was going on, etc. The hostess just asked me: Would you like to fly in First?
I said sure, if there is space, what do I owe you? (always offer to pay, don't ask for freebies)
Oh nothing, I'll comp you.
Okey doke.

Maybe it was because I was dressed nice.............

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RE: Pilot Seats Inthe Cabin

Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:05 pm

Quoting Mason747 (Thread starter):
And do pilots get first class seats for a little fee or do they have to pay a full fare to get the extra service?

Depends on their boarding status.

On American carriers with an industry courtesy jumpseat, then it would be free no matter where they sit.

If the pilot was traveling on their own airline for pleasure, they may well be getting service charged. Not all airlines offer free flights for employees. For example, AA charges employees to sit in either cabin if they have less than 5 years of service, First Class costing more of course. (Fees are based on mileage.) After 5 years coach is free, while First is a reduced charge.

If it's business travel, like a company assigned deadhead or travel to training, then it's free.

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