lsgg
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Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:25 am

Hey !

According to the Swiss media, people have just launched an initiative to bring the management of SIR to the Canton of Valais, instead of the city of Sion. Indeed, they want SIR to be much more developed in Tourist section. Currently, Sion Airport is a strong Swiss Air Force base, has a good private/general aviation sector and is served seasonally (charter) by Flybaboo and Flybe to London, Calvi and Ajaccio.

Do you think there is any reason for SIR to look at a brighter future ?
Any potential bigger market for them ?

- They can afford 2600 passengers a day in their tiny but modern terminal.
- The airport is closed by 2 or 3 kilometers to ski stations.

The competition is Switzerland is strong between Airports : ZHR, GVA, BSL and even LUG... A place for SIR in a so tiny country ?  Smile

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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:37 am

That would be awesome! It would make my trips to Sion every summer much less of a hassle. (We always take the train from GVA for two hours and then have somebody pick us up.) Instead, we could connect through London or something and fly right to where we are! I would love it. And the approach into the Valais in that location would be unbelievable! So would takeoff, in order to avoid the mountains.

Count me in!

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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting Lsgg (Thread starter):
Do you think there is any reason for SIR to look at a brighter future ?
Any potential bigger market for them ?

Vacationing in Zermatt would be much easier for Americans. Most airlines fly into ZRH, but then it's a 4 hour train ride to Sion. Which means that you have to overnight in ZRH to get back to the USA.
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:47 am

When the new Lötschberg railway tunnel will open by the end of next year, it will only take 3 hours from Zurich to Zermatt.
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:00 am

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 3):
When the new Lötschberg railway tunnel will open by the end of next year, it will only take 3 hours from Zurich to Zermatt.

Which means absolutely nothing to someone trying to catch the 11am flights back to the USA. You'd have to leave your hotel at 6am?

But a 9am Sion to ZRH flight would be much better. Leave your hotel at 7:30. A much better way to end a vacation.

Not sure how the plane gets there to leave Sion at 9am, however. The timing may still not be practical for airline service.
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:22 am

The Canton of Geneva may not want to see Sion's airport developed. Much of the market that Sion would appeal to is served by GVA, not Zürich.

Second, most people travelling to Zermatt travel via Geneva as there is a direct rail link to Brig/Sion from Geneva Airport.

In the long run I think the most service we will see at Sion will be the occasional ski charter and a connection to a European Airport like Frankfurt or Zürich.
 
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:31 pm

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 5):
The Canton of Geneva may not want to see Sion's airport developed. Much of the market that Sion would appeal to is served by GVA, not Zürich.

Agree with that : see how many european ski charters GVA drains every winter.

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 5):
Second, most people travelling to Zermatt travel via Geneva as there is a direct rail link to Brig/Sion from Geneva Airport.

A 2 hours connection... Well, in that case could we expect any flight connection ? (With Flybaboo for example, a new try in the connection market after the failed of GVA-ZHR-GVA)
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:12 pm

I wouldn't expect a Geneva - Sion flight, a bit short. Swissair and later Swiss operated a Zürich - Sion flight, which was cut along with most of the other Swiss domestic flights in 2003. I could see that flight returning and being operated by one of Denim's Dash-8s, much like the Zürich-Lugano route is served today.
 
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:35 pm

I think that Sion airport can be developped in two ways :

- more ski Charter flights to UK, Scandinavia, Belgium, Russia in winter like there are in Chambéry or Slazburg.

- Low cost flights to UK or Germany. I don't see EasyJet coming to Sion because it is too close from Geneva, but why not Ryanair? one flight a day to London, Hahn or Charleroi? or Flybe offering sheduled flights instead of charter?

I don't see flights to ZRH, FRA or other hubs to be profitable.

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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:00 pm

I think there could be a profitable service with a fuel efficient turboprop. I do question whether the service could be operated year round, as during the later Swiss days, when the service was operated only during the winter (and at the end, exclusively from Heathrow).

A operation a la Ryanair at Salzburg could be well suited (a daily flight from London). Although, again, I doubt there is enough off season traffic to warrant a yearound service.
 
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:16 pm

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 9):
A operation a la Ryanair at Salzburg could be well suited (a daily flight from London). Although, again, I doubt there is enough off season traffic to warrant a yearound service

I think that if Ryanair opens a route from Sion to London, it will be to compete with EasyJet in Geneva.
Many passengers flying from Geneva are not from Geneva but from Lausanne and lake Geneva Region (Montreux, Vevey and even further.. Fribourg). It is not far longer to go to GVA from Lausanne than to Sion from Lausanne. It can often be quicker as the motorway is far less crowded...
I think a year round service could be profitable.
 
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:58 pm

Didn't Sion have a security scare a few years back that stopped many UK Charter Airlines from flying there? They do have limited flights from the UK but ive tried to book one and it was cancelled on "safety grounds" (?)
 
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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:04 pm

Quoting Lsgg (Reply 6):

Agree with that : see how many european ski charters GVA drains every winter.

GVa also serves the Franch alps so if SIR was opened to more flights it wouldn't affect GVA as muich as one may think

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 7):
I wouldn't expect a Geneva - Sion flight, a bit short

LUG-GVA is already 35 min. SIR-GVA would only trake like 15 minutes. Fair enough for a turboprop

Quoting Bh4007 (Reply 11):
Didn't Sion have a security scare a few years back that stopped many UK Charter Airlines from flying there?

Didn't BA fly there for a short while

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RE: Sion Airport : Could Be Developed?

Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:29 pm

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 12):

GVa also serves the Franch alps so if SIR was opened to more flights it wouldn't affect GVA as muich as one may think

Of course the developing of SIR would not put GVA in danger, however I thing most of the market SIR would acquire belongs currently to GVA (at least in the ski sector). As tiny it would be... What could we imagine ? 1000 passengers a day ? In comparaison of the 27000 passenger a day for GVA...  Yeah sure
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