A340600MAN
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Long Haul Services Out Of MAN

Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:07 am

Hi All

I have visited Manchester for going on 30 years and in that time I have seen many airlines come and go.

South African Airways - Johannesburg - B747-200
Air India - Bombay - A310-300
Air Jamaica - Kingston / Montego Bay - A340-300
Gulf Air - Bahrain - B767-300
Air Mauritius - B767-200 If my memory serves me right.
BWIA - Trinidad and Tobago - A340-300
Qantas - Melbourne / Sydney - B747-200

and more recently

Malaysian Airlines - Kuala Lumpur - B747-400

a) I am sure that their were many different reasons for each of these airlines pulling out of Manchester. Is their a underlying problem with Manchester ??

b) With the amount of services to Tokyo, Johannesburg, Washington, Hong Kong, Melbourne to name but a few operating out of LHR. What are the prospects of possible services out of MAN ? What does Manchester have to do to attract these routes?

c) Will NW take on the Boston route next year and will they at last start DTW ??

As can be seen with EY/AUH and DL/JFK we can attract carriers.

It would be great from an enthusiasts point of view to see UA 763's, JA777's, CX A340's, NW A330's out of Manchester.

I look forward to your comments
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Candid76
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RE: Long Haul Services Out Of MAN

Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:57 pm

Maybe after the chaos today airlines might think twice about putting all of their eggs in one basket? It leaves them very exposed when that particular airport gets hit with a big problem.

Flights from Manchester today have not been very badly affected - and very few have been cancelled.
 
gilesdavies
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RE: Long Haul Services Out Of MAN

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:31 pm

With more and more passengers wanting to fly to different destinations, I think there is not such a need for major natonal carriers to fly routes to intermediate airports like MAN and instead this has started a new market...

That new market I am referring to is for airlines like Singapore Airlines, Emirates, Qatar and Etihad to fill these airlines shoes that have left MAN and offer a far greater number of connections to where people want to fly through these new "super hubs" that are springing up in places like SIN and DXB.
 
mainMAN
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RE: Long Haul Services Out Of MAN

Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:07 pm

Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 2):
That new market I am referring to is for airlines like Singapore Airlines, Emirates, Qatar and Etihad to fill these airlines shoes that have left MAN and offer a far greater number of connections to where people want to fly through these new "super hubs" that are springing up in places like SIN and DXB.

Very true.

Quoting A340600MAN (Thread starter):
South African Airways - Johannesburg - B747-200

Operated twice weekly via CDG. Good loads reported but cancelled at the same time that SA scrapped other secondary destinations like VIE, MAD, LIS and concentrated instead on offering daily services to fewer main hubs (as MH are now doing)

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Air India - Bombay - A310-300

Another popular route, frequency increased from 3 to 5 weekly, all via FCO. The reason given for withdrawal was lack of aircraft availability. There is a market for MAN - India and the next few years will see Indian Airlines, Jet or Kingfisher at MAN.

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Gulf Air - Bahrain - B767-300

Not to BAH but to AUH and onwards to Muscat. This was never going to work because AUH wasn't a proper hub for GF, and it was stated that they would return but flying to BAH once they'd built a hub operation there. They still haven't done this, leaving EK, EY and QR with all the passengers instead.

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Qantas - Melbourne / Sydney - B747-200

QF route was MAN-LHR-BKK-SYD-MEL. No longer a profitable way to run an airline! We may see Jetstar at MAN with a more leisure orientated service, as QF try to claw back passengers from EK and SQ.

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I am sure that their were many different reasons for each of these airlines pulling out of Manchester. Is their a underlying problem with Manchester ??

No underlying problem, but non-capital city airports often struggle with yield. Especially in the UK, where the bulk of economic wealth is in the South East. This gets discussed ad infinitum.

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With the amount of services to Tokyo, Johannesburg, Washington, Hong Kong, Melbourne to name but a few operating out of LHR. What are the prospects of possible services out of MAN ? What does Manchester have to do to attract these routes?

Fingers crossed, MAN just has to wait for the operating economics of the 787, an aircraft designed for secondary markets.

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Will NW take on the Boston route next year and will they at last start DTW ??

I don't know about NW taking on the BOS route, because it's unclear as to whether AA will continue it. As for DTW, yes probably.

I've said this a million times, but if you compare MAN to other European airports like BCN, CPH, BRU and DUS, it actually does very well indeed.

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