krje1980
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The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:50 pm

First off, let me say that I fully believe that the security measures taken at airports in the UK and US today are completely justified. Thousands of lives may have been saved today, and I feel that it is totally inappropriate to compalin about no hand luggage being allowed.

At the same time I started thinking what the future will be for duty free shopping if these security measures will stay for good. Obviously they would have no purpose since anything bought can't be brought onto the plane anyway. If these measures are here for good, will that mean the end of duty free shopping?

Again, I do not wish to downplay the severity of the situation today. I do not drink alcohol, and therefore hardly use duty free shopping anyway. This is simply to open up a discussion as to what opinions people might have on this issue.
 
deaphen
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:56 pm

I honestly dont see these measures to be permanent for all times to come. They may become a fixture of flights in the USA, but world over, i dont think they can take such extreme measures.

I mean it makes more sense for the airlines to step up security and make sure they check peoples bags extremely well before allowing them to take them onboard. Of course implimentation of such extreme measures mean that people will have to report to airports waay in advance to complete the measures.

As far as duty free is concerned, i dont think it will really be affected. I mean i am sure things up for sale may be scrutinized but would probably be allowed if purchased onboard.

Hence my analysis is that this will just a passing phase and will not be a permanent security feature. I am open to further comments though!

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BCAL
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:00 pm

I think that perhaps passengers will be given the option to buy their duty free at the arrival airport, with the duty-free area located in the international arrivals/baggage reclaim area, so this avoids the need to carry anything on board. Mind you, there will then be the problem of people who have by then thrown away their boarding cards, which will be required to prove the passengers' eligibility to purchase goods at duty-free prices (remember that there is no duty free allowance for passengers travelling between EU countries).

It would also save the airlines' fuel bills, as the carriage of passengers' duty free goods does add weight to the plane and hence the need to carry more fuel, not much but still a saving over the year.
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chksix
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:02 pm

Quoting BCAL (Reply 2):

Good idea!
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ARGinLON
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:06 pm

Too early to tell... We still have not heard what is really going on and how far this will go. I think this is bigger than we all think and hopefully we will be given more info about the plot.
 
skidmarks
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:07 pm

All that has to be done is do what the Americans do in several airports and that is select and pay. Then, instead of collecting it BEFORE you get on the plane, collect it on arrival at the destination. Keeps it out of the cabin and gives everyone more room!

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krje1980
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:42 pm

BCAL, Skidmarks:

Both of these options are good ideas. Here in Norway you can already buy duty free stuff in the arrivals/baggage claim area. Of course, strolling around in shops before departure kills some of the bore of waiting, so if a system such as the one described by Skidmarks was enforced, it would probably be the best option.

It's still too bad if one isn't allowed to bring any sort of reading material on board though. Long-haul flights without IFE will be dreadfully boring, thus resulting in more screaming children as well as annoyed and frustrated passengers. Also, the question remains if these extreme security measures will only affect the UK and the US, or if they will be enforced all over the world. If this becomes a UK/US thing, many passengers might opt airlines that do not pass through these countries. However, this might result in massive financial troubles for British and American airlines.

This is all speculation though. I guess the best thing to do is just wait and see!
 
kiwiandrew

RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:48 pm

Quoting BCAL (Reply 2):
I think that perhaps passengers will be given the option to buy their duty free at the arrival airport, with the duty-free area located in the international arrivals/baggage reclaim area, so this avoids the need to carry anything on board.

New Zealand has had this for years - it is great - you don't have to carry the stuff with you . From the airlines point of view it must be an improvement, less weight and bulk onboard ,and do we really want all that flammable duty free in the cabin anyway ?
 
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:51 pm

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 1):

I mean it makes more sense for the airlines to step up security and make sure they check peoples bags extremely well before allowing them to take them onboard. Of course implimentation of such extreme measures mean that people will have to report to airports waay in advance to complete the measures.

Exactly. There is no way travelers will not be allowed to bring laptops and books on board. If you fly often, the torture is heightened. As Deaphen mentions, it makes more sense to finally make security as good as it can be. But I disagree that it needs to take longer. A good, professional search system should not take longer than what is in place today.

See this article, and especially the part about departing Kuwait, for an example of good security:
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2460
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ardian
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RE: The Future Of Duty Free

Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:01 am

AMS has the 'pick up on return' service:
link

Quite convenient

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