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DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:34 am

How is DL's service between ATL and EDI doing? How have the loads been, and does anyone know if they look sustainable?
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:07 am

something i would like to know as well!!

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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:14 am

AFAIK, loads recently have been around the 78% mark
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:04 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
AFAIK, loads recently have been around the 78% mark

What about the yields? As many people have noted here on a.net in the past, while load factors are some indication of performance (a route with a 20% LF obviously isn't making any money), the yield is really the key to evaluating a route's success.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:28 am

79% load factor for it's first month in June. Not sure on the biz-eco split, but the route is carrying a lot of cargo.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:14 pm

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 3):
What about the yields?

Front has been completely full on a few ocassions, but it's more a leisure route with people connecting to Florida
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:29 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 5):
Front has been completely full on a few ocassions,

Front being full could simply mean a lot of non-revs, which is likely in this case as EDI is a new destination/route for DL...
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:33 pm

Well, if the route is carrying lots of cargo, that should help the financials of the flights if yields for pax are rather low. Still, at least the 79% LF is higher than many people would have probably expected.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:46 pm

79% at the height of summer ? Wonder what it will be in deepest winter (and yes I know the frequency is having to be reduced during the winter )

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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:28 pm

Quoting BY738 (Reply 8):
79% at the height of summer ? Wonder what it will be in deepest winter (and yes I know the frequency is having to be reduced during the winter )

More than it would have been at GLA?  Wink Give it time, it's just a new route after all.
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:51 pm

Is this route being operated on the 764?
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:55 pm

Quoting HUYguy (Reply 10):
Is this route being operated on the 764?

No, the 767-300ER
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:42 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 9):
79% at the height of summer ?

87% for July if i remember correctly. I did the maths earlier on and can't be bothered rechecking  Smile

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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:24 pm

I think it's 86% for July. 11,475 passengers. Not bad at all. It carried more passengers than many established Scotland-USA routes, including GLA-PHL and GLA-ORD. Pretty good going. Loads will, I'm sure be down for winter, but hopefully they will be sufficiently strong to keep the route afloat on a year-round basis. Well done, DL!  Smile
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:40 am

Quoting Damian (Reply 13):

I suppose with minimal competition to the US from EDI you would hope so.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:57 am

Quoting BY738 (Reply 14):
I suppose with minimal competition to the US from EDI you would hope so.

More competition from EDI than GLA this coming winter!
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:03 am

ATL-EDI only carried 42 less passengers over the whole month of July than ATL-MAN did, a route which has been around for a good few years. Read into that what you will but hopefully the EDI route can establish itself as well as the MAN route has, looking good though.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:11 am

If its mostly Florida tourist then great. I'm happy that this flight is proving to be a money maker.

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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:54 pm

As far as yields go, I´m sure the yields for the aircraft dedicated to the route is pulling in more money than a Florida shuttle that was operated with the 767-300´s before they were converted to int´l configuration.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:20 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 15):

If you say so......
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:45 pm

Quoting BY738 (Reply 14):
I suppose with minimal competition to the US from EDI you would hope so

I'm not sure I agree the competition is "minimal". Just because CO and DL are the only airlines flying directly to the USA from EDI that doesn't mean they represent the sum total of passengers travelling between the Scottish capital and the United States. BA/AA, AF, KL, LH, EI, BD/UA etc. all compete with these airlines from EDI, albeit on an indirect basis. Surface journeys to MAN to access US flights are also not unheard of. Additionally, GLA is near enough to EDI that transatlantic flights there are just as much competition to EDI.

Under the circumstances, DL seems to have done pretty well at EDI.
 
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:48 pm

Quoting BY738 (Reply 19):
If you say so......

Daily CO and 5 x weekly DL vs Daily CO and 3 x weekly GSM isn't more competition?
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:00 pm

Question for the Scots here...is GLA more leisure and EDI more business/finance or the other way around. Or do both cities have the same amount of that type of travel?

Just curious. Thanks all.

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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:11 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 22):
Question for the Scots here...is GLA more leisure and EDI more business/finance or the other way around.

EDI is a high yielding destination, although it does have a mix of Business and Leisure pax. GLA is for the most part, a low yielding outbiound leisure airport.
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RE: DL ATL-EDI - How Is It Doing?

Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:50 pm

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 22):
Question for the Scots here...is GLA more leisure and EDI more business/finance or the other way around. Or do both cities have the same amount of that type of travel?

Edinburgh is the second most important business destination in the UK, after london. There are a lot of large companies based in Edinburgh, specifically Standard Life, Royal Bank Of Scotland, HBOS etc.

If you look at the traffic at each airport, you will see that most of Edinburghs traffic is scheduled european flights, with very little in the way of charter services. Glasgow on the other hand is the opposite, very few euro destinations, and a huge charter market.

Most of Edinburghs flights are year round, there are only a few summer-only services. A lot of Glasgows flights are summer only, the airport is pretty queit during the winter, so much so that BAA has offered airlines reduced fees during the winter to attract services.

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