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US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:37 am

We know the new E-190s will be based at PHL and according to our employee newsletter, they will mainly be used for flights in the 400-500 mile range (underutilized for sure but ups possible frequencies). What we really haven't talked about are possible E-190 routes.

A huge chunk of American (and Canadian, for that matter) population is within 500 miles around PHL so there are tons of possibilities.
I'm thinking:
YUL
YOW
ORF
GSO
RIC
PWM
BTV
CMH
BUF
AVL
ROC
SYR
ALB
PVD? to start.
Possibly CRW depending on demand?
Also, I see US possibly opening LEX and CAK from PHL as they currently are only served from CLT...maybe TRI - wishful thinking  crossfingers 
I was also mulling over the idea of a quasi-shuttle service PIT-PHL for at least part of the day. US has said no new stations will be opened with the aircraft, I think an interesting idea would be to keep PHL to mainline flights from only over 400 miles away + the shuttle flights, while inside the 400 mile zone the E190s would eventually carry the bulk of pax...is this possible? Would this be better or worse for PHL? I'm thinking the frequency of flights would increase, but things like turnaround time would be faster, and fewer rampers would be needed per flight. Cancellations would also be easier to deal with as there are simply fewer pax per flight to rebook or accomodate.

I'm also highly interested in what will happen with the aircraft freed up by the increased capacity. Open up YHZ anyone?

I dunno, I'm bored and it's been on my mind today  Smile
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:44 am

I could see a bunch of the markets that used to have only 737 which now only see for the most part RJ service transitioning to E90..

I don't know what markets.. but I would have to think that ORF would need to get upgraded from the almost all RJ service it has.. If it doesn't, then US is just crazy... ORF used to be a high market share US market..
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:52 am

Routes that have already been announced are BDL and PVD- PHL
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:56 am

How fast will US receive these aircraft? Are they coming in one big chunk or one by one over a period of months?
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
I could see a bunch of the markets that used to have only 737 which now only see for the most part RJ service transitioning to E90..

YOW used to be a 737/DC-9 only market, but it's been all-RJ for over 5 years now. Would be nice to see the E190 here.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
don't know what markets.. but I would have to think that ORF would need to get upgraded from the almost all RJ service it has.. If it doesn't, then US is just crazy... ORF used to be a high market share US market..

The only problem with that is that Air wisconsin has both a crew base and a MX base in ORF. If US made this a primary mainline station, they would have to pay ZW money to move the MX and Crew base somewhere else. Personally, I believe that PIT and CLT should have MX bases for ZW, especially PIT, where the local MX can't do anything really to repair planes.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:23 am

Come on, US, bring it to ABE in place of the 319!!!

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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:28 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 6):
Come on, US, bring it to ABE in place of the 319!!!

The 319 is out of CLT though so the 190 won't have anything to do with that, for the moment. I'm a little surprised that ABE even gets a single mainline flight being so close to PHL.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:29 am

DAY should see one or two a day since the CRJ-200 & 700 are selling out even with higher freq.
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting Apodino (Reply 5):
Personally, I believe that PIT and CLT should have MX bases for ZW, especially PIT, where the local MX can't do anything really to repair planes.

This makes sense...



The E90s will be main-line right? I am sure PHL-PIT and PHL-CLT will see the aircraft! PHL-PIT sees just about everything! Because the aircraft will be based in PHL, does this mean than PIT and CLT won't see any routes from the E90?
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:13 am

These are several routes that you could except from Philly:
ATL
GSO
RDU
PWM
YUL
DTW
CMH
IND
DAY
ORD
IAH
AUS-new
DFW
MSY
FPO-new
NAS-possiblity out DCA & LGA weekends
SDF
MEM
BNA
SAV
CHS
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:22 am

BDA could also be made
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:24 am

I forgot there has also been talk of bringing back DAB. However, I was only going over possibilities inside that 500 mile circle.

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 9):
Because the aircraft will be based in PHL, does this mean than PIT and CLT won't see any routes from the E90?

Not AT FIRST but it won't take too long, IMO. The aircraft is just too versatile to keep them all at PHL.

Quoting Ophila (Reply 10):
AUS-new

AUS is currently only served by HP. I would think they would wait to start up PHL-AUS until the computer systems are integrated, which they are saying will be sometime 1Q 2007. Granted, the E190 is only going to start flying in December...but yes, AUS is badly needed from US on the east coast, as well as SAT.

Where did you get that information?
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting Ophila (Reply 10):
These are several routes that you could except from Philly:
ATL
GSO
RDU
PWM
YUL
DTW
CMH
IND
DAY
ORD
IAH
AUS-new
DFW
MSY
FPO-new
NAS-possiblity out DCA & LGA weekends
SDF
MEM
BNA
SAV
CHS

Alot of these do not fall into the 500 mile rule (ATL, ORD, IAH, AUS, DFW, MSY, FPO, NAS, SAV, CHS). probably, once you get past North Carolina and Indiana (?).. you are out of the range from PHL. BDA falls within or just slightly outside of the range but could be doable..
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:28 am

USAirways definitely needs to get a larger aircraft going between CMH and PHL, be it an E90, 733, 319, etc. Ever since Southwest began service between the two cities and USAirways matched their fares accordingly, the latter's flights are constantly overbooked. Also, while the 190s will be mainline operated, Republic's maintenance facility in CMH could be of use if a maintenance issue were to arise on a flight. Preferably, I would like to see at least one morning flight and one afternoon flight upgraded to larger aircraft; the morning for business travelers and the afternoon for the international connections out of Philly.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 13):
Alot of these do not fall into the 500 mile rule (ATL, ORD, IAH, AUS, DFW, MSY, FPO, NAS, SAV, CHS). probably, once you get past North Carolina and Indiana (?).. you are out of the range from PHL. BDA falls within or just slightly outside of the range but could be doable..

I am not considering the range restrictions in the newsletter but the profit margin
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:31 am

Well within range of BDA

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Number of Aircraft 6
Manufacturer Embraer
Engines CF34-10E5A1
Cruise Speed 811 km/h (504 mph)
Range 3,540 km (2,200 miles)
Cruise Altitude 10,670 m. (35,000')
Cargo Capacity 1,502 kilos (3,311 lbs)
Fuel Capacity 16,209 l. (4,234 usg)
Length of Aircraft 36.2 m. (118' 11")
Wing Span 26 m. (85' 4")
Height 10.6 m. (34' 8")
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:37 am

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 16):
AC E190
Joined the fleet 2006
Number of Aircraft 6
Manufacturer Embraer
Engines CF34-10E5A1
Cruise Speed 811 km/h (504 mph)
Range 3,540 km (2,200 miles)
Cruise Altitude 10,670 m. (35,000')
Cargo Capacity 1,502 kilos (3,311 lbs)
Fuel Capacity 16,209 l. (4,234 usg)
Length of Aircraft 36.2 m. (118' 11")
Wing Span 26 m. (85' 4")
Height 10.6 m. (34' 8")

The 190 could be used on routes like slc and abq if they are allocated properly. Considering AC utilizes their Ejets from YYZ-PHX
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:43 am

E190 Could reach from PHL-SJU,GCM,STT,SXM, even AUA if you push it a little
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:49 am

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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:53 am

If the E70 can do it the E90 has better range
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:17 am

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 20):
If the E70 can do it the E90 has better range

Will the E90s be mainline?



Quick question: Who is operating the E75 for US? Republic Airways?
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:20 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 21):
Will the E90s be mainline?

Mainline.

Quoting Ophila (Reply 17):
The 190 could be used on routes like slc and abq if they are allocated properly. Considering AC utilizes their Ejets from YYZ-PHX

I'd agree. SLC, ABQ, AUS, SAT and ELP.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 21):
Who is operating the E75 for US? Republic Airways?

Yes, Republic will be flying the E175's.
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 16):
AC E190
Joined the fleet 2006
Number of Aircraft 6
Manufacturer Embraer
Engines CF34-10E5A1
Cruise Speed 811 km/h (504 mph)
Range 3,540 km (2,200 miles)
Cruise Altitude 10,670 m. (35,000')
Cargo Capacity 1,502 kilos (3,311 lbs)
Fuel Capacity 16,209 l. (4,234 usg)
Length of Aircraft 36.2 m. (118' 11")
Wing Span 26 m. (85' 4")
Height 10.6 m. (34' 8")

Looks like a 737-200....with better gas mileage.
It is 100' feet long, wingspan 93' feet, could fly 2,000nm, with a hair over 100 pax, but using over twice as much fuel.
The E90 is also a nicer looking bird in my opinion.
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:37 am

The US E-190s will be in a 100-seat config. 88 coach and 11 FC, which is a high ratio compared to many fullsize mainline aircraft but should do well flying in the business-heavy Northeast.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 24):
Looks like a 737-200....with better gas mileage.

HAHAHAHA

Quoting Stirling (Reply 24):
It is 100' feet long, wingspan 93' feet, could fly 2,000nm, with a hair over 100 pax, but using over twice as much fuel.
The E90 is also a nicer looking bird in my opinion.

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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:25 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 23):
Yes, Republic will be flying the E175's.

Thank you EMBQA! Thank you HPRamper! Will the E75s be getting MX work in PIT like the E70s?
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:02 am

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 27):
Thank you EMBQA! Thank you HPRamper! Will the E75s be getting MX work in PIT like the E70s?

Those might go to CMH or IND, but don't quote me on that! It would be cool to see those birds come to PIT for mx though... Big grin
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:17 am

Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 14):
USAirways definitely needs to get a larger aircraft going between CMH and PHL, be it an E90, 733, 319, etc.

I woudl expect to see the E175s on that route...
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:26 pm

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 25):
The US E-190s will be in a 100-seat config. 88 coach and 11 FC

American public schools at their best.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:54 pm

You think they would use those E190s on the PHL/LGA route? Aside from the smaller ERJs and Dashs that fly the route they also have a one or two airbii aircraft on the route daily. I flew the A321 on this route before and I thought to myself what a large plane for a such a short route, I think we only went up to 9,000ft.
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:09 pm

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 30):
American public schools at their best.

Hey now, I copied and pasted that info. Don't shoot the messenger. I should have caught it though, since (duh) one of the money-savers for US will be keeping seats under the magic number of 100.

Although that doesn't bode well seeing as someone more important than I wrote that up  

[Edited 2006-08-16 06:11:02]
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:34 pm

DCA-SRQ is one.








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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting Captaink (Reply 31):
Aside from the smaller ERJs and Dashs that fly the route they also have a one or two airbii aircraft on the route daily.

PHL-LGA as of August 21, 2006:

(4 daily DH8) (2 CRJ) (4 ERJ)

10 daily flights, NO mainline? I am not sure if you were thinking of BOS?
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:35 am

I hope they do expand the 500mile rule, these aircraft have such potential for thinner markets. Look at how A/C uses it on the Calgary-Newark route. US Airways could even supplement good routes like YEG and YYC which are well in range for a E190.
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:29 am

Quoting HPRamper (Thread starter):
I see US possibly opening LEX and CAK from PHL as they currently are only served from CLT

CAK-PHL is 3x daily. Has been served since CAK-PIT was eliminated. All ZW CRJ's on the route. From what I've heard, loads are decent, but yields are poor because of the FL influence at CAK.

Personally, I don't care which aircraft they use, I'd just like to see TOL-PHL!
 
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RE: US Airways E190 Routes?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:35 pm

I just don't understand the CLT-ABE route. Everyday at work I look at this flight and it is never booked more than 60!!!

Ah, why can't TYS get a mainline flight??!

Day flights are always full...but PSA has sooo many Must Rides on this flight that, of course, do not generate revenue. Also, our wonderful gate agents block seats on so many flights (which is completely illegal) by selling dupe segments and fake itins! I have seen more of this on DAY flights... that is until I search for stuff like this in my free time!

I am so surprised that TYS doesn't have a 170 flying there. Our afternoon PHL flight is one of our strongest performing... and we probably send more people to PHL than any other destination...especially O&D.
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