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Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:44 am

I read recently that Air Jamaica have leased some 757s from North American which they seem to like. How long is this lease for? Is there any chances of them aquiring 757s for their own fleet longterm? I would love to see 757s in JM colors. Does anyone know of any recent JM fleet update plans? What are they using for long haul aircrafts now? I think they returned one or two A340s.
 
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:09 am

Hmm I didn't see this coming. What is the reason that JM is leasing the 757? On which routes are these 757s used? JM uses the A321 to CUR on weekends, can we expect the 757 to operate the CUR route as well on weekends? Would be great! And yes, the 757would look very nice in the JM livery.... Big grin

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:37 am

About 10 days ago i was in MBJ for a 4 day vacation. I saw North American 757s come in and go pretty much everyday, I believe I saw a 767 as well, I assumed it was charter service by North American, but Air Jamaica lease makes more sense. They were in full North American livery about 2-3 flights in and out each day. Also saw Virgin 747-4s land which was a very pleasent surprise. Apparently they just started a twice a week service to MBJ. Air Jamaica A340 visited once in the 4 days I was there as well, it came in around 11pm on tuesday left in the evening the next day. I stayed at a place called Relax Inn. The third floor offers perfect unobstructed view of the airport incase anyone is interested..
 
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:51 am

Quoting Zsx81 (Reply 2):
I stayed at a place called Relax Inn. The third floor offers perfect unobstructed view of the airport incase anyone is interested..

Very interesting tip Zsx81. Now I have a place to go to for aircraft photography if I ever go to MBJ on vacation. How big is MBJ and are there plans for expansion or a new terminal?

Also please keep us updated on the JM 757 leases and whether these 757s will be used on the JM CUR route.

Thanks

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Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:54 am

Cool next time I'm in MBJ, i'm staying there. Thank you Zsx81. Which side?

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:54 am

N750NA is being using regularly on the JFK-GND route as AJM194. I hear it most days on the HF box.

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:29 am

also on X amount of days per week, it is serving as a second JM flight between JFK and MBJ.

Surprisingly though, JM cancelled (in advance) one of the flights my clients were booked on and transferred them back onto the JM metal the day they were flying.
 
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:42 am

Quoting Zsx81 (Reply 2):
Also saw Virgin 747-4s land which was a very pleasent surprise. Apparently they just started a twice a week service to MBJ. Air Jamaica A340 visited once in the 4 days I was there as well, it came in around 11pm on tuesday left in the evening the next day. I stayed at a place called Relax Inn. The third floor offers perfect unobstructed view of the airport incase anyone is interested..

Glad to hear you had a great time in Mbay. I am also happy to hear that there are still 747s that visit there. BA used to have 747s there too in the 80s, not sure about now. Also JM leased 747s a few times. MBJ used to have a very good observation deck which we used to call the 'waving gallery' as we could wave to our relatives when boarding and dis-embarking . When the Concorde used to go to MBJ the observation deck would be packed. It was closed I think to be used for more air con units during the airports expansion  
There are quite a few hotels, beaches and bars very close to MBJ which give good views of aircraft movements.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
How big is MBJ and are there plans for expansion or a new terminal?

Not sure which airport I could compare it to in terms of size, it is not very big however it has one runway and it is going through a very nice expansion. It now has air bridges so even if there was still a observation deck you would be able to see your relatives going on or off, but it would still be nice place for a spotter.
Everyone goes through the same terminal for customs and immigration.
I really miss that observation deck when I visit.

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Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:07 pm

Thanks for the tips and explanation JAM747. Do you have an insight into the JM aircraft scheduling? I would like to know if we can expect the North American 757 here in CUR operating for JM.

A388 Big grin
 
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:15 pm

Yes JM uses two North American 757s, one for the MBJ route, and one for the 5 weekly JFK/GND route. This is supposed to be for the duration of the summer period/peak season.

Rumour: My bro who works with JM in NY, says that the airline has been very pleased with the performance of the B752s and is looking to acquire a few 757s. I have heard this before. He also said they are looking to get some B737s, this I have not heard before. The long and short is that they are looking to replace their narrowbody fleet in the first instance with Boeing metal.

I think this has to do with their new new CEO who used to be at America West and Continental, and apparently is quite the Boeing fan.

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Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:20 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
Thanks for the tips and explanation JAM747. Do you have an insight into the JM aircraft scheduling?

You are welcome. Un fortunately I do not have insight into the scheduling but I am sure some of our friends on here will help us out like Captaink just did. Thanks Captaink.
 
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:36 pm

Quoting Captaink (Reply 9):
Yes JM uses two North American 757s, one for the MBJ route, and one for the 5 weekly JFK/GND route. This is supposed to be for the duration of the summer period/peak season.

Rumour: My bro who works with JM in NY, says that the airline has been very pleased with the performance of the B752s and is looking to acquire a few 757s. I have heard this before. He also said they are looking to get some B737s, this I have not heard before. The long and short is that they are looking to replace their narrowbody fleet in the first instance with Boeing metal.

I think this has to do with their new new CEO who used to be at America West and Continental, and apparently is quite the Boein fan.

Indeed many thanks for the info Captaink. I am hoping JM will send the (leased) 757 to CUR. Although I'm sad to see the Airbus's leaving JM  Sad But than again, Boeing aircraft will also look nice in JM's livery. Actually all aircraft will look nice in the colorful JM livery Big grin

Keep us updated on the 757 operations at JM Big grin

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:49 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
would like to know if we can expect the North American 757 here in CUR operating for JM.

I don't think that you will see the North American 757-200's in CUR. I think they are only flying Air Jamaica routes from JFK?
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:52 pm

Air Jamaica currently uses 2 Boeing 757's from North American. One does the JM10/11 between JFK-MBJ-JFK and the other does JM94/95 between JFK-GND-JFK (5 times a week). The other 2 days, it does an additional JFK-MBJ-JFK flight as JM1010/1011. All flights in full North American colors. The service is supposed to go until around the second week of September, however may be extended depending on the loads. North American has been flying for Air Jamaica on an off for the past few years, so wouldn't be surprised to see them around after September.
 
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:03 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 12):
I don't think that you will see the North American 757-200's in CUR. I think they are only flying Air Jamaica routes from JFK?

Correct, the MBJ and GND routes to be specific. They are used because of the usual high loads on these flights this time of year. GND has had a history of very high loads (due to/but not only because of the annual carinval) and an incredibly high number of shortshipped bags due to bulkouts. So far this season has been pretty good according the reports from the Spice Isle and the 752 is holding the fort well so to speak.

I do agree with Air France JFK that there is a high possibility that they will continue to use the 752s even after the peak season. Lets see what happens. I will ask some questions and advise you guys accordingly.
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:10 pm

MBJ is not huge, but its not tiny either! Its amazing to see a 747 take off from that runway though. Most people would hate this hotel becuase you have to pay between $8-$5 to get to town but I was very happy for the most part. Anyway here are some pictures from my room's balcony.









Interesting point about JM possibly acquiring 757s, for one they are pretty hot in the market right now. Secondly as far as I know JM has an all airbus fleet. As Jamaica become a more popular destination I can certainly see a need for bigger planes though. Jamaica has alot of potential to become more popular then it is.

They are doing some construction inside the terminal, I am not sure it they are remodling or expanding..
 
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:11 pm

I recall reading something in early 2004 about the then-owner of JM, Gordon Butch Stewart, wanting to lease three second hand A330s to expand routes into Vancouver, San Francisco and Amsterdam. Does anybody know anything about this?
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Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:18 pm

Quoting Jayce (Reply 16):
I recall reading something in early 2004 about the then-owner of JM, Gordon Butch Stewart, wanting to lease three second hand A330s to expand routes into Vancouver, San Francisco and Amsterdam. Does anybody know anything about this?

I worked at GND in those days, but the newsletter said they were looking at A319s for SFO and YVR, didnt hear about A330's or AMS though. That seems to be on hold. And since JM went through some cutbacks last year, new destinations have not been rumoured.
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:16 pm

Captaink..The CEO is Mike Conway; formerly of America West and National (LAS). Mike had lots of experience w/ the 757 at these two airlines and has always preferred this a/c over anything else.
 
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:05 pm

Wow, very nice photos Zsx81! What type of camera and lense did you use for those photos. The terminal looks quite big, very nice! Also which hotel did you stay at and was you room a suite on the top floor? The photos you took there, were those taken on a weekend? I see a lot of charter airlines on your photos. I would love to go there for just a few days to photograph the aircraft from a similar room you had. Is Jamaica expensive? Please let me know, sounds fantastic!

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:34 pm

A388,

I remember seeing the North American 757s in CUR quite often when I worked at BonairExel (2004). They were flying charter flights from the USA during the winter period that year, like every Thursday. Maybe this winter season they will be back. Remember the winter season is high season for the USA/Canada.

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Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:39 pm

Quoting GoAibusGo (Reply 20):
A388,

I remember seeing the North American 757s in CUR quite often when I worked at BonairExel (2004). They were flying charter flights from the USA during the winter period that year, like every Thursday. Maybe this winter season they will be back. Remember The winter season is high season for the USA/Canada.

Hi GoAibusGo, thanks for the tip. I remember seeing pictures of the North American 757 here in CUR as well as Apple Vacations (Pace Airlines) 757. We get more charterflights during november-january. Hopefully I will have more luck this year  Smile

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:50 pm

Interesting photos. I flew into MBJ years ago when they didn't even have jetways! The terminal was on the ground level, and we had to walk out to our Tower 747 and then climb stairs.

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:52 pm

Quoting JAM747 (Thread starter):

Where are they operating the aircraft?
JFK?
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:13 pm

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 23):
Where are they operating the aircraft?
JFK?

JFK-Montego Bay
JFK-St. Georges, Grenada

(North American also operates track charter service to Port of Spain from JFK and scheduled service to Georgetown, Guyana from JFK and Africa from JFK and BWI.) They use the 757 on service to everywhere but Africa, except that they sub in the 767 sometimes when their operational needs require it.
 
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:17 pm

Quoting SafetyDude (Reply 22):
I flew into MBJ years ago when they didn't even have jetways!

I was there relatively recently, in January 2003, and even then there were no jetways! Looks like a big improvement--I am impressed.

On the other hand, I have always enjoyed arriving in the Caribbean and stepping off the plane into the warm air, an experience which part of me is sad to see disappearing.
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:50 pm

Very good pictures Zxs81. I have never seen pictures like that of MBJ before
 
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:54 pm

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 7):
BA used to have 747s there too in the 80s, not sure about now.

BA don't fly to MBJ at all any more. They do operate 777s to Kingston a few times a week, but nothing to MoBay at all, sadly.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:13 am

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 26):
Very good pictures Zxs81. I have never seen pictures like that of MBJ before

Same here. I searched the database and couldn't find similar photos. The terminal also seems to be new as pictures in the database show a much smaller terminal with jetways or is it just the part of the terminal shown in the photos posted above that is much larger? I also saw you can take pictures from the beach where the aircraft fly over on approach. At least it appears to be a beach but is it a public place with a snackbar or do many tourists come there? If I ever plan a short trip to MBJ I would prefer to be at save spotting locations that are known to people where I am not all alone and to avoid being send away by the local police.

Here are two photos that give a better view on the airport surroundings:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=275016

Is this the terminal shown in the photos in this thread? Somehow the terminal in the photos shown in this thread looks much bigger and new.

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=211572

Is this beach still accessible to the public? If so, are there taxi drivers bringing people to this location and picking them up again?

After seeing the photos in this thread I've fallen in love with MBJ. It looks like a very nice airport with nice aircraft photography opportunities but I'm not sure. Anyone please give me more tips on MBJ... 

JAM747 & Zsx81, can you give a detailed summary of nice places for aircraft photography close to the airport? Which hotels are the closest for the best photography opportunities?

Many thanks,

A388

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:34 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 28):
The terminal also seems to be new as pictures in the database show a much smaller terminal with jetways or is it just the part of the terminal shown in the photos posted above that is much larger? I also saw you can take pictures from the beach where the aircraft fly over on approach. At least it appears to be a beach but is it a public place with a snackbar or do many tourists come there? If I ever plan a short trip to MBJ I would prefer to be at save spotting locations that are known to people where I am not all alone and to avoid being send away by the local police.

The airport is going through a major expansion. The terminal has been greatly upgraded. From Zsx81 pictures with the Virgin 747, the side facing the camera is new plus airliners can now park on both sides of that terminal. As for taking pictures from the beach where the aircrafts fly over, when I was there in Febuary this year there were people taking pictures at that spot while our aircraft was waiting clearance fro take off. It is not a real beach but as you can see from A388 pics you can get real close to the runway where most aircrafts land. Actually there are public roads which run on both sides of the runway as well. There is a fence but nothing else to block the view. I have never been to the 'beach' but plan to do so the next time I go. I believe there are bars or shops near there so it is a public area. There are quite a few hotels that give good views of the airport and its activity because some hotels are located on the hills looking down on the airport. I cannot remember the names but I will find out. I was not really into aviation when I lived there but now I regret I did not take advantage of the excellent spotting oportunities especially when they had the observation deck.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:42 am

Cool. Are there any 757's around that Mr. Conway can get?

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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:02 am

Thanks for the information JAM747, I really appreciate it. What type of lense would you need to get nice (closer) photos of the activities (aircraft) at the airport when looking from the balconies of the hotels? If the hotels are still too far away it would be in my disadvantage. Another problem I also have is my memory card. Are there photo stores close by (maybe in the hotels) where I can burn my photos from my memory card onto a CD?

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:12 am

I was in MBJ in July and happened to get a pic of one of those North American 757s...


Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
How big is MBJ

I think there's 17 jetways so pretty decent

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 7):
There are quite a few hotels, beaches and bars very close to MBJ which give good views of aircraft movements

Thats for sure... here's some shots I got from this beach right next to airport




took this while eating at Margarittaville

Quoting A388 (Reply 28):
At least it appears to be a beach but is it a public place with a snackbar or do many tourists come there

When I was there we were the only Americans around so it doesnt really seem like a tourist beach but none the less it provides a fantastic view, the best I have ever seen for spotting.

Quoting A388 (Reply 28):
Is this the terminal shown in the photos in this thread? Somehow the terminal in the photos shown in this thread looks much bigger and new.

Theres an extension of 11 jetways where that Virgin 747 is at the gate in Zsx81's pics

the bottom half is the newer area

Quoting A388 (Reply 28):
Is this beach still accessible to the public? If so, are there taxi drivers bringing people to this location and picking them up again?

well here is where I spotted
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/xtremeair/MBJapproach.jpg

Just past the marker is a cement wall...

and beyond that I believe you can even get closer to the action.

if you want to see some more photos and information check out my 2 trip reports to MBJ. Air Jamaica ORD-MBJ Part 1 (34 Pics) (by Mkeflyer717 Jul 11 2006 in Trip Reports) Air Jamaica MBJ-ORD Part 2 (pics/videos) Long (by Mkeflyer717 Jul 13 2006 in Trip Reports)

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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:31 am

Hi Gaston,

Thanks for all the information and your nice photos. I am getting a better idea of how the airport beach is but I would like to know more about the airport hotels there and accessability to more spotting locations as I will not have a car if I plan to go to MBJ. It would be too expensive unfortunately. Also if you have information on photo stores where I can burn my photos on CD that would be awesome. As I've said my trip will mainly be for aircraft photography so I will be at MBJ airport most of the time.

Also, once you have passed the security and customs are you allowed to walk through the entire terminal to take aircraft photos?

Thanks,

A388

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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:46 am

Welcome to my respected user list mkeflyer717 . Thanks for taking such great pictures, and creating such a detailed and informative trip report. Most important I think it is admireable that you take time to go to other countries to help out the way you did in Jamaica.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:52 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 31):
Thanks for the information JAM747, I really appreciate it. What type of lense would you need to get nice (closer) photos of the activities (aircraft) at the airport when looking from the balconies of the hotels? If the hotels are still too far away it would be in my disadvantage. Another problem I also have is my memory card. Are there photo stores close by (maybe in the hotels) where I can burn my photos from my memory card onto a CD?

A388

A388 I will have to get this information for you. It might take a few days. I will ask my friend who is living in Montego Bay so I have up to date info for you.
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:01 am

WOW MBJ does look good. Thanks Mkeflyer717 indeed for the photos.

About the jetways, many caribbean visitors say they like the stepping off into the warm air and caribbean sun. I can understand that. But having worked at a caribbean airport namely GND, between June and December it really sucks at times because of the rain. And usually there aren't enough umbrellas for passengers coming of a Dash 8 let alone a bigger airplane. I guess jetways are the way to go on bigger caribbean airports. Trinidad got them when they built their new terminal a few years ago, they have 14 jetways on their airport. Barbados is supposedly going to include it in their terminal upgrade plans but let us see what happens. And now we see that MBJ has done it.

Anyone know what other caribbean islands have jetways? I know most of the islands that are still dependant on other countries have, eg Martinique, Curacao etc?
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 35):
A388 I will have to get this information for you. It might take a few days. I will ask my friend who is living in Montego Bay so I have up to date info for you.

Thanks JAM747, I will await your update. Meanwhile I will see when I can plan this trip. I will be by next as I have to go to the Netherlands first. So I have all the time to read all the tips  Smile

Quoting Captaink (Reply 36):
About the jetways, many caribbean visitors say they like the stepping off into the warm air and caribbean sun. I can understand that. But having worked at a caribbean airport namely GND, between June and December it really sucks at times because of the rain. And usually there aren't enough umbrellas for passengers coming of a Dash 8 let alone a bigger airplane. I guess jetways are the way to go on bigger caribbean airports. Trinidad got them when they built their new terminal a few years ago, they have 14 jetways on their airport. Barbados is supposedly going to include it in their terminal upgrade plans but let us see what happens. And now we see that MBJ has done it.

Anyone know what other caribbean islands have jetways? I know most of the islands that are still dependant on other countries have, eg Martinique, Curacao etc?

I can imagine the rain part here in the Caribbean. But now we also have jetways as our brandnew terminal has recently been opened in CUR. See my photo here:

http://myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00741944&size=large

I'm working on taking more pictures of our new terminal now that it is fully operational with some aircraft at the gates.

A388 Big grin
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:25 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 37):
I'm working on taking more pictures of our new terminal now that it is fully operational with some aircraft at the gates.

Awesome, terminal looks good A388. I think I can feel proud of CUR. My mother was born there. I claim part of roots there LOL.
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:37 am

Quoting Captaink (Reply 38):
Awesome, terminal looks good A388. I think I can feel proud of CUR. My mother was born there. I claim part of roots there LOL.


Hey Captaink, I didn't know you are part Antillean, that's nice to hear indeed  Have you ever visited your other native country (CUR)? Do you still live in MEX or are you an aircraft spotter? I do have to say I am very impressed by the new MBJ terminal, it is much bigger than I thaught. MBJ is an airport I will surely visit one day, I'm already very excited about the idea

A388

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:50 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 39):

Hey Captaink, I didn't know you are part Antillean, that's nice to hear indeed  Have you ever visited your other native country (CUR)? Do you still live in MEX or are you an aircraft spotter? I do have to say I am very impressed by the new MBJ terminal, it is much bigger than I thaught. MBJ is an airport I will surely visit one day, I'm already very excited about the idea

Yep I am part Antillean but never had the chance to visit. I was born in Grenada, and even though it is relatively close to CUR, it was a bit expensive to go. My mom went a few times I can remember, and the last time was quite a few years ago, routed, BW GND - POS, then it was ALM from POS - AUA - CUR. Neither ALM nor GND - POS on BW exists anymore.  Smile I will come visit soon though.

Work? I used to work at GND as a passenger service agent for the handling company there. No airline except LIAT and American Eagle has their own staff so it was good work, BW, BA, VS, 8B, JM, US (when they had flights) etc. We were cross trained so I could have checked in any flight, depends on where they assigned you that day.

Right now yeah I live and study (nothing related to aviation) in Mexico.

Awesome country this is though, let me tell you.

MBJ and KIN for that matter is on my "to do list" as well.
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:58 am

Nice stories Captaink. I am meeting very helpful people in this thread. Maybe we can go to MBJ and have a spotters meeting their at the airport. So JAM747, Zsx81, Mkeflyer717, Captaink and of course everybody who is interested, does MBJ sound good to meet somewhere next year? I'm just suggesting here. I can only go by the third or fourth quarter of next year if all goes as planned. Like Captaink said, travelling in the Caribbean is very expensive, let alone to stay in a hotel as well but MBJ really looks worth it. That airport looks very nice! Big grin

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:08 am

I am game. Let's make it happen.
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:41 am

Well, we have a start. As I have said I may be able to go somewhere in the third or fourth quarter of next year. In any way MBJ is on my to-do list as well 

EDIT: I just checked the ticket fares CUR-MBJ to get an idea on the prices and if I leave on saturday and come back on tuesday it will cost me approximately 400 U.S. Dollars with the cheapest fare (third week of October). How much are the hotel rooms around MBJ airport?

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:08 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
Nice stories Captaink. I am meeting very helpful people in this thread. Maybe we can go to MBJ and have a spotters meeting their at the airport. So JAM747, Zsx81, Mkeflyer717, Captaink and of course everybody who is interested, does MBJ sound good to meet somewhere next year? I'm just suggesting here. I can only go by the third or fourth quarter of next year if all goes as planned. Like Captaink said, travelling in the Caribbean is very expensive, let alone to stay in a hotel as well but MBJ really looks worth it. That airport looks very nice!

A388

Very good idea. We should keep in touch and see how things flow. I might be going through a job change soon so I am not sure how my schedule for next year will be. I really appreciate everyones input on this trend, it has been very informative and fun. I wish there were more trends like this on A.net. By the way, does anyone know what will happen at JM when the 757s go back?
 
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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:21 pm

Quoting JAM747 (Reply 44):
Very good idea. We should keep in touch and see how things flow. I might be going through a job change soon so I am not sure how my schedule for next year will be. I really appreciate everyones input on this trend, it has been very informative and fun. I wish there were more trends like this on A.net. By the way, does anyone know what will happen at JM when the 757s go back?

I totally agree with you on this. We should have more trends like this here Big grin

As for the JM 757s, I don't know more than what has been said here so far. The way I read it here the current CEO of JM seems to be a real fan of the 757 and it is a very nice aircraft too especially when looking at the take-off power of the 757 Big grin Other than this, I don't know more. It would be nice to see the 757 flying in JM colors Big grin But than again I would have loved to see the A332 wearing the JM colors too. That would be even better! Big grin

Seriously, when looking at JM's financial situation I would stick to Airbus as they already have an all-Airbus fleet with cockpit commonality so adding the A330 to the fleet for expansion would mean less costs compared to switching to Boeing or any other aircraft type for that matter.

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:36 pm

Wow...I can't believe how they've expanded that terminal. I stayed at the Relax Resort at MBJ over Christmas 2001 & the place was really nice, especially for the airport view. When I was there, it was the original terminal & about 5 remote stands where the expanded terminal is. Didn't have jetways, either. Looks really nice.

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:47 pm

Quoting Captaink (Reply 36):
Anyone know what other caribbean islands have jetways? I know most of the islands that are still dependant on other countries have, eg Martinique, Curacao etc?

SJU does, SXM will when the new terminal opens (if it hasn't yet).

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:12 pm

Ok, just spoke to someone at GND.

1. The 757s were indeed fantastic. GND just past the absolute peak of incoming passengers, carnival weekend. Baggage problems? His words exactly, there isn't any. The 757s handled the baggage just fine. I think that and the fact that 50lbs max per bag is now the limit.

2. Sadly, the 757 service to GND is due to end mid september. I am not too sure what about MBJ

As much as they served their purpose well, I must admit I didn't like the idea of North American doing JM flights. The airplane is in a one class 210 seat config and the crew is North American, with one JM representative. So it is not a good representation of JM at all. Good things is that due to the extra capacity we have a lot of happy passengers who arrived with their bags.

Quoting A388 (Reply 45):
Seriously, when looking at JM's financial situation I would stick to Airbus as they already have an all-Airbus fleet with cockpit commonality so adding the A330 to the fleet for expansion would mean less costs compared to switching to Boeing or any other aircraft type for that matter.

You do have a point. Changing the fleet would be an expensive venture. I know I keep mentioning baggage issues, but really caribbean VFR passengers are a unique bunch, and the A320 is not working well. During the summer period we have had to truck bags down to MIA, then ship them down to GND/UVF/BGI on Amerijet or DHL. That also costs the airline an incredible abomt of money, hence the equimpent change this summer.

JM flights to Grenada are full and the tickets are very expensive. Last check before carnival, roundtrip JFK/GND/JFK was in the region of US800-US1300. That is a 4.5 hour flight. JM makes a lot of money on the route, so they need to ensure that their passengers are happy. Leasing 757s from North American worked this year, but I don't see that as a viable permanent option.

As the leases on the A320s expire, I think we will see JM making the investment in different aircraft.

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RE: Air Jamaica 757s, How Long Will They Have Them?

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:24 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 45):
Seriously, when looking at JM's financial situation I would stick to Airbus as they already have an all-Airbus fleet with cockpit commonality so adding the A330 to the fleet for expansion would mean less costs compared to switching to Boeing or any other aircraft type for that matter.

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Quoting Captaink (Reply 48):
The 757s handled the baggage just fine. I think that and the fact that 50lbs max per bag is now the limit.



Quoting Captaink (Reply 48):
You do have a point. Changing the fleet would be an expensive venture. I know I keep mentioning baggage issues, but really caribbean VFR passengers are a unique bunch, and the A320 is not working well. During the summer period we have had to truck bags down to MIA, then ship them down to GND/UVF/BGI on Amerijet or DHL. That also costs the airline an incredible abomt of money, hence the equimpent change this summer.

These points shows the two sides of the coin that JM is dealing with. The 757s seem to work for them with its uplift capabilities but they don't have the fleet commonalities of their current Airbuses. They used to have A300s which seem to have the capabities which JM need. I am not sure why they don't have them any more. I think they were the older A300-400 type which were leased and not the more modern 2 man cockpit A300-600 like AA use to MBJ. I think they tried to aquire or ordered two new A300-600 which they canceled and were even trying to lease A330s. It is probably difficult to find used A330s now anyway and JM really need to sort itself out financially. If they want to remain competitive and be profitable a fleet change might be a good option for their long term to cope with the needs they have.