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UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:37 pm

Just heard it on WHDH in BOS, a UA flight 923 (763) from LHR-IAD was diverted and landed in BOS due to a security "disturbance". A woman is bound and isolated at the back of the plane and 3 passengers had a confrontation with the flight crew. Those passengers had suspicious items in their baggage aswell. Hope all goes well!

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:42 pm

Lady had vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida (spelling?) according to WHDH now...

[Edited 2006-08-16 16:43:30]

Update: Now reporting that they had fighter jet escort inbound..
Just posting what I'm hearing on Ch 7...

[Edited 2006-08-16 16:51:58]
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:51 pm

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 1):
Lady had vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida (spelling?) according to WHDH now...

If that is serious, how on earth could those find their way on a plane from LHR with all the security procedures now in place.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
If that is serious, how on earth could those find their way on a plane from LHR with all the security procedures now in place.

Good question. But I just saw a article about a 12 year old boy who boarded a flight from LGW to Lisbon, Portugal without a tocket or passport. So nothing is impossible.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:54 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):

Well supposedly some boy walked through gatwick security without a passport and without getting screened at all.

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:54 pm

A Logan spokesman said three passengers had a confrontation with the flight crew. State Police took control of the plane after it landed. All the passengers were being taken off the plane and their carry-on luggage was being checked, said spokesman Phil Orlandella.

Source.

It's a short article, but more should be to come soon.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:54 pm

reported now that the lady was claustrphobic and "could not control herself"

This is supposedly from a Boston FBI agent

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:54 pm

Where did everybody go?
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:56 pm

Fox has live coverage of the United 767 sitting on runway 15R with lots of emergency vehicles near it.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 1):
Lady had vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida (spelling?) according to WHDH now...

Confirmed or is this just more sensationalistic reporting?

I find it hard to believe give the current state of things at LHR that she had those things on her.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:01 am

Unbelieveable...matches, a screwdriver and vaseline...it is almost not even worth it to fly, as things go relaxed for a couple of days and some imbecile ruins it for everyone else. What is wrong with people and how the hell did this get through security at LHR?
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:02 am

I'm not attempting to confirm anything...just passing on what I'm hearing from the BOS local ch 7 for those not in this area...so "don't shoot the messenger"!

Update: Two F-15 fighter jets from Otis were scrambled to accompany it.

They have changed story now also: Hand lotion, matches and the note.

[Edited 2006-08-16 17:05:27]
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 11):

Oh, not trying to do so. Just seems rather unplausible given how things are at the current moment.

No offense meant.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:04 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 8):
Fox has live coverage of the United 767 sitting on runway 15R with lots of emergency vehicles near it.

BOS doesn't have 15R. It has 4-22R/L, 18-36R/L, and 9-27.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:05 am

My worst fears are true. Airport security, anywhere, is all smoke and mirrors put out for the tv cameras.

REAL security, including profiling, thorough checking, and a no-holds barred multi-layer coverage a la El Al is what we desperately need.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:05 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
BOS doesn't have 15R. It has 4-22R/L, 18-36R/L, and 9-27.

According to this page, BOS does have a 15R/33R.

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=US05375&sch=KBOS
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:07 am

As I updated my earlier post, they have not yet located the screwdriver as of now...
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:08 am

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 14):
REAL security, including profiling, thorough checking, and a no-holds barred multi-layer coverage a la El Al is what we desperately need.

This just shows irrational restrictions, no matter how tight, and not substitute for real security.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:08 am

I just read this on the internet. I am freaking out. This makes you ask yourself if it's really safe to fly? I don't think so. Hello, vaseline, a screwdriver, matches. Did this woman get checked in London or not? I am riding trains from now on. Then they tell you that it is safe to fly, bullshit!!!
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:09 am

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:10 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 13):
BOS doesn't have 15R. It has 4-22R/L, 18-36R/L, and 9-27.

It's most definitely sitting on a runway "15R"...Fox is showing the plane from a helicopter.

The newscaster on Fox just read an e-mail from Greta Van Sustren saying she was on this plane flying home on Saturday, and that there were two patdowns as well as a few people who clearly stuck out as air marshalls.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:11 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
If that is serious, how on earth could those find their way on a plane from LHR with all the security procedures now in place.

Well quite easily actually. We're not yet at the stage where passengers are strip searched at security - until we are I should imagine it's quite easy for small items such as these to be smuggled through. How would security know if she had a small jar of Vaseline tucked away in her knickers?
 
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:13 am

Greta is now on Fox saying that she heard that United flew over a 777 a few days back with air marshalls to provide security for flights back to the US....Anybody know about this?
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:14 am

FYI: They have updated the vaseline to hand lotion...but still.. a banned item!
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:14 am

yes they do have a 15R...............it is 10,083 in length.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:15 am

Hand lotion, matches and a note referencing Al Qaeda are confirmed. The screw driver is being verified. All 182 PAX have been brought to terminal E (the int'l terminal).

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:17 am

Quoting SK736 (Reply 21):
Well quite easily actually. We're not yet at the stage where passengers are strip searched at security - until we are I should imagine it's quite easy for small items such as these to be smuggled through. How would security know if she had a small jar of Vaseline tucked away in her knickers?

I can understand getting something like Vaseline in a pocket or something, but a screwdriver? Unless it was plastic, I find it odd that they wouldn't pick that up with the metal detector.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:17 am

I was wondering if someone might know why the UA 777 was diverted to Boston?
Boston is a very populated area, and if there was a terror threat then it would make sense for them to be so close to a populate area. The original plan of the fioled terror attacks was to blow up the plane over highly populated area. They usually divert teror threats to Bangor, Maine.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:19 am

BOS does have a 15R/33L and its the longest of the 5 runways. It sits about 200 feet from the International Term "E"
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:19 am

Quoting Faustino927 (Reply 18):
I am riding trains from now on.

Good call. Those trains across the atlantic have perfect security. Come to think of it, trains everywhere have excellent screening and security. Nothing bad ever happened in Madrid on trains. Oh...  sarcastic 

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:21 am

Quoting Amirs (Reply 27):
I was wondering if someone might know why the UA 777 was diverted to Boston?
Boston is a very populated area, and if there was a terror threat then it would make sense for them to be so close to a populate area. The original plan of the fioled terror attacks was to blow up the plane over highly populated area. They usually divert teror threats to Bangor, Maine.

The 763 was probably diverted to BOS because it was too far from Bangor.

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:24 am

If this information is correct somebody's head should roll at LHR. How can somebody get on with a screwdriver? This is nuts.

As for the passenger(s) who caused all this, imo he/she/they should be dealt with severely. This nonsense can't be tolerated.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:29 am

They are showing all the pax luggage spread out on runway and being checked by dogs...
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 am

Quoting Contrails (Reply 31):
As for the passenger(s) who caused all this, imo he/she/they should be dealt with severely. This nonsense can't be tolerated.

United should send the pax an invoice for the cost of diverting the plane.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:34 am

Ok...so now they are saying it was a 60yr old woman who was claustrophic and disruptive...and thus was restrained...

The flight did get escort from Otis ANG - 102nd wing
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:38 am

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 1):

Not anymore. MSNBC is now saying the AP is stating the woman did not have any of those items...
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:39 am

Could be that this is just one of those diversions due to an aggressive/drunk passenger that we see every now and again, for the aviation world this is nothing new but the media quickly blows it up more than happily.


We´ll see though, i do admit that it is odd if somone got a screwdriver on board. But at this point it could very well be downgraded to a plastic straw for all we know, like the supposed vaseline was.


Please keep us updated you guys in the area listening to the local news!
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:40 am

Quoting Amirs (Reply 27):
I was wondering if someone might know why the UA 777 was diverted to Boston?
Boston is a very populated area, and if there was a terror threat then it would make sense for them to be so close to a populate area. The original plan of the fioled terror attacks was to blow up the plane over highly populated area. They usually divert teror threats to Bangor, Maine.

Probably because the closest fighter base is Otis ANGB in Mass. There are no other fighter bases north of Boston.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:40 am

BAA security its so inconsistent that something like this would not be surprising to many!!

Utterly ridiculous!

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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:43 am

Another possibility why BOS is that a Federal Court is near by in downtown. They would have the facilities to hold and process charges against them. Even if they landed at Bangor, they probably would have transferred her to there anyway. Also, I would assume that UA has facilities there for mx, crew or could be more easily transferred to there is work time limits are an issue.
If she is convicted, I hope she gets a number of years in a nice Federal prison. As to the 'confrontation' in the initial stories, could that actually been as to other pax reacting and trying to subdue the woman?
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:44 am

Hang on a bit, with all the speculation as to what this pax had on her person, let's just wait to find out the real story. I know it's a great talking point and all but now they're just reporting that the pax was claustrophobic.

It's so easy for newscasters to sensationalize stories unless they intercepted the call from the captain to ATC.
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:45 am

I think the real security in this day and age are the other passengers. Not only do they not want to die, but they are angry that they have to fly in fear. They won't stand idly by anymore. They will take down whatever threat is posed towards the aircraft and that is what has truly changed following september 11th.....but still........what a world, huh?!?
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:46 am

Quoting Jetpixx (Reply 10):
matches, a screwdriver

Did these become no-no items again after the UK stuff? I thought the regulation was no boxed matches but the ones in the paper flip containers were fine. Screwdrivers were allowed back on within the past year I thought...at least that is wha I was told and I've been carrying a small one with me for my laptop with no problems.
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:50 am

Quoting Swank300 (Reply 41):
I think the real security in this day and age are the other passengers. Not only do they not want to die, but they are angry that they have to fly in fear. They won't stand idly by anymore. They will take down whatever threat is posed towards the aircraft and that is what has truly changed following september 11th.....but still........what a world, huh?!?

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Anyone trying to take control of the AC these days is considered as someone trying to murder you, hence people surely react differently than against the classical 70-80´s hijacker who stranded a plane and wanted some odd prisoners to be released. Rightfully so of course. I would do my best to wreck someone who tried some funny stunts on a flight that i´m on..at least i can sit here and say that right now.  Wink
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:50 am

As I stated earlier, I was just posting what I heard...so whatever wrong info they gave, I relayed...sorry! In a breaking story like this, info gets out that is wrong, and this seems to have happened again...but the reporter supposedly had good sources...however, errors occur!

Reason for BOS instead of Bangor? Now saying it was because situation was basically under control...
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:12 am

It is a 60 Year Old woman apparently. I wonder how she got this through...lol
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:17 am

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 1):
vaseline, screwdriver, matches, and note about al-quida

By the end of the day, the items above will prove to be yogurt, spoon, saltines and a note about Al Capone  Wink
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:21 am

Quoting UA868 (Reply 38):
BAA security its so inconsistent that something like this would not be surprising to many!!

Why? I wouldnt believe all first instance media reports if I were you, the reports of the presence of these items have now been denied.

Quote:

A woman passenger on the United Airlines flight is said to have involved in a confrontation with crew.

But reports that she was carrying items including a screwdriver, Vaseline, matches and a note referring to al-Qaeda have been denied.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4799057.stm
 
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting Aogdesk (Reply 46):
By the end of the day, the items above will prove to be yogurt, spoon, saltines and a note about Al Capone

That was funny  Smile  Smile

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 45):
It is a 60 Year Old woman apparently

Now I assume that TSA will not allow all the 60 + years old woman in planes because they are dangerous  Smile  Smile
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RE: UA Flight Diverted To BOS Due To Security

Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:29 am

Great...here comes another 10,000 pax wanting freebie upgrades to ECY Plus because they are claustrophobic.....  Smile  Smile  Smile

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