bells
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Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:35 pm

Have you voted in the flightglobal.com poll yet? Boeing and Embraer are neck and neck but Airbus and Bombardier are trailing badly. Wake up Toulouse and Montreal, or is everyone on holiday?

http://www.flightglobal.com/Home/Default.aspx
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:42 pm

I voted for Boeing, but Embraer is a close second for me.
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:44 pm

Cute poll. It's a pitty that the voters aren't asked for a reason why...

And, no, I did not vote.  no 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:45 pm

Quoting Bells (Thread starter):
Wake up Toulouse and Montreal, or is everyone on holiday?

There's something weird going on with this poll: if you look at the previous polls, there are typically between 500 and 1,500 votes per poll, with the highest being just over 2000 (a poll that ran during the Farnborough Air Show, a very busy time for the site). This poll, with five days to go, already has 12,500 votes! Something's very fishy here...
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:51 pm

That's a stupid poll. I did not vote.
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:53 pm

Quoting Naritaflyer (Reply 4):
That's a stupid poll. I did not vote.

Agreed !!
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting Naritaflyer (Reply 4):
That's a stupid poll. I did not vote.

I second that too... It's a surprise you find one of these on a respected publication like FI.
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:17 pm

Absolutely stupid poll
Statistically anyone that votes for Boeing is a moron, as they, statiscally don't build the safest aircraft.
It would have to be Airbus I think...

But yes stupid.
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:24 pm

Doing a poll about "which manufacturer builds the safest aircraft" has to be considered a major foul-up by a top-of-the-pops aerospace trade mag like FLIGHT.

The only good thing about this is, while I was there I discovered that they started to put all their cutaway drawings online.
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:08 am

take it for what it is... have some fun... i voted Airbus  Smile tjao!!
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:11 am

Hmm. Maybe if they'd gone by model.....


I can bet DC-10 would not win that one.
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:51 am

FI really screwed up on this one. Never play the safety card. FI, you listening?
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:45 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 7):
Statistically anyone that votes for Boeing is a moron, as they, statiscally don't build the safest aircraft.

I have to agree the poll is pretty dumb. I voted Boeing, call me a moron, but I've never flown on an Airbus, so how can I feel safe, or for that matter unsafe.
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:00 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 7):
Statistically anyone that votes for Boeing is a moron, as they, statiscally don't build the safest aircraft.
It would have to be Airbus I think...

Statistically statistics can be skewed to promote any viewpoint. Are you comparing all aircraft built in Boeing's 90 year history vs. Airbus's 36 years? Then of course Airbus would seem better, more modern technology. Are Boeing military aircraft included? Are you citing all crashed, or just ones caused by manufacturing defects?

"There are three types of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics."

I believe all manufacturers build great safe aircraft, and yes this poll is stupid.
 
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RE: Airbus & Bombardier Need Your Help

Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:02 am

I am not intending to vote but since the safety of planes is mentioned, I could not help mentioning that on 14th August (one year since Helios B737-300 crash), a local Cypriot newspaper has published some details which (they claim) are to be included in Greek CAA report, due to be published in early September.

The accident is believed to be due to human error as the pilots did not realise that the cabin altitude was increasing (pressurization switch was left on manual by engineer the previous night when testing the back door). However, the newspaper claims that the report will also be criticizing Boeing for not installing a separate alarm to alert pilots for failing cabin pressure (the alarm is the same as for other problems that may occur during flight).

Similar problems have occurred with the 737-300 series operated by other airliners (I think Astraeus was the most recent one when there was rapid decompression when the plane was flying at high altitude).
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