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Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:30 pm

Boeing have updated their weekly order site and list the following;

1 x 787 for Boeing Business Jet bring total sales to 3
2 x 787 have been added as Unidentified

Spicejets order for 5 x 738 & 5 x 739ER has been listed as a new order and total 737 sales now stand at 418 year to date.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Be nice to be waiting for 787BBJ  Wink

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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:51 pm

Actually a lot of planes for a "quiet" week in the quiet month of August.

3 new 787's without a peep in the news, interesting.

Thanks for the update.
 
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:55 pm

Why do people keep calling it "787BBJ"

Isn't the correct name 787VIP?
 
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:05 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 2):
Why do people keep calling it "787BBJ"

Isn't the correct name 787VIP?

What does Boeing call it?
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:19 am

Boeing calls it the 787 VIP

I just talked to the director of 787 communications, and that is the official name.
 
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:06 am

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):
Boeing calls it the 787 VIP

Duly noted and thank you for using your contacts for the confirmation of the designation. Unlike the launch of the original BBJ Boeing have remained quiet on this model. It would be interesting to know what their market forecast is for sales over the life of the program.

Quoting JayinKitsap (Reply 1):
Actually a lot of planes for a "quiet" week in the quiet month of August.

The more so if the information on Monarch is correct and another 6 787s are announced today. In addition some 737NG leasing contracts have been announced for another 9 frames. No doubt Airbus are working with their customers too, just a shame they only update monthly.

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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:38 am

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 5):
Unlike the launch of the original BBJ Boeing have remained quiet on this model.

Hi, mate. Boeing might not have given it as much funfare, but it was covered enough.
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Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 5):
It would be interesting to know what their market forecast is for sales over the life of the program.

With three already confirmed a long way before rollout, it seems the 739 VIP is off to a good start and proving popular on the airliner-size business jet front. But nobody seems interested in figuring out who the owners are (ditto for the UFO Elite) based on the thread I started.

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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 6):
Boeing might not have given it as much funfare, but it was covered enough.

Thank you sir.

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 6):
But nobody seems interested in figuring out who the owners are (ditto for the UFO Elite) based on the thread I started.

The problem is that most people who buy these like to remain anonymous for some quite understandable reasons. As you pointed out in your thread PrivatAir, having expressed a public interest, could well be one of the customers given the first 2 787 VIP were signed for on the same day. If any are for an individual then I'd have to say that Middle Eastern Royal flights would be prime contenders or people such as Paul Allen or Roman Abramovich to replace current Boeings.

As for the A318 Elites I guess it's the same and we'll have to wait until delivery to really find out.

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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:25 pm

I'm still waiting for that "unidentified" order for the 777's and 747-8I to be filled and announced...I hope its QR and they get those negotiations finished.....
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:29 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8):
I'm still waiting for that "unidentified" order for the 777's and 747-8I to be filled and announced...I hope its QR and they get those negotiations finished.....

I think it's widely understood that the 777s are for QR. There seems to be no doubt there. But this order has been on/off before and we can only assume that Airbus are muddying the waters behind the scenes. I think it would be surprising if it didn't eventually go ahead but it's one of those that shouldn't be counted before the ink is dry.
 
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Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:34 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 9):
I think it's widely understood that the 777s are for QR. There seems to be no doubt there. But this order has been on/off before and we can only assume that Airbus are muddying the waters behind the scenes. I think it would be surprising if it didn't eventually go ahead but it's one of those that shouldn't be counted before the ink is dry.

Hi PM... Smile

Hence me stating....

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 8):
I hope its QR and they get those negotiations finished.....

because with QR, one just never knows.. spin ....
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:37 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 7):
As you pointed out in your thread PrivatAir, having expressed a public interest

But they would not need a 787 VIP, just a 787. The reason they fly BBJ and ACJ is not because they are "business jets" but because they are small planes with widebody range. They are outfit in business class configurations that could just as easily be put on a standard 737 or 319.
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:36 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 11):
But they would not need a 787 VIP, just a 787. The reason they fly BBJ and ACJ is not because they are "business jets" but because they are small planes with widebody range. They are outfit in business class configurations that could just as easily be put on a standard 737 or 319.

What is the configuration of their 757? Pax or VIP? Anyway, companies move into new markets. Just becuase their BBJs and ACJs are flown on scheduled routes doesn't mean that they won't move further into VIP services. Their history prior to doing routes for LH and LX has been in executive travel.
 
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RE: Boeing Weekly Orders: 787 BBJ & 787s

Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:48 pm

Quoting PM (Reply 12):
What is the configuration of their 757? Pax or VIP? Anyway, companies move into new markets. Just becuase their BBJs and ACJs are flown on scheduled routes doesn't mean that they won't move further into VIP services. Their history prior to doing routes for LH and LX has been in executive travel.

Indeed. IIRC, one of their biggest jobs before doing commercial flights for LH, LX and KL was flying the Rolling Stones around on their "40 Licks" tour, using their 757. For flying like that, a 789VIP would be ideal, especially if the tour covers pretty much the whole globe and at some times longhaul flying is required, e.g. finishing the tour in Australia and then heading back home to the US or UK, just as an example.

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