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Vasu
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MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:31 am

Yesterday I was checking in for my CY flight back to the UK (which was excellent, by the way!) and I saw a few check-in desks dedicated to a MEA flight to Montreal! It had a 4-number flight no. and I think it had a 1 and a 7 in it. There were people in "Canada" tshirts standing around it, and the passengers (who arrived in large clusters) were escorted straight to these desks from the entrance. What was this flight? Some sort of evacuation?
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:44 am

Quoting Vasu (Thread starter):
Yesterday I was checking in for my CY flight back to the UK (which was excellent, by the way!) and I saw a few check-in desks dedicated to a MEA flight to Montreal! It had a 4-number flight no. and I think it had a 1 and a 7 in it. There were people in "Canada" tshirts standing around it, and the passengers (who arrived in large clusters) were escorted straight to these desks from the entrance. What was this flight? Some sort of evacuation?

The Canadian Government have chartered Louis Cruise Lines's Princesa Marissa to perform a series of trips from Cyprus to Lebanon. Perhaps the MEA flight is connected to this.

Glad you liked CY A330. Hopefully in 2-3 years time, with the new LCA and PFO terminals the airport mess will be a thing of the past.
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soups
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 1):
Perhaps the MEA flight is connected to this.

MEA been flying to Sydney and Canada for evacuation
Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
 
UnitedFirst
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:04 am

On Monday, I definitely saw an MEA plane (assuming an A330, but I wasn't really paying too close attention - perhaps an A321 even?) landing at YUL while at lunch at AC HQ.

I'm assuming that this was a charter, as MEA does not offer scheduled service to North America at all, let alone YUL.

Derek
 
yegbey01
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:15 am

actually, if you look into the Canadian Trasnport Agency website you wil see that MEA has been operating so many flights...They are issuing special exemptions. LAst night, there was a flight A330 indeed.

here's a link...(you can check others for yourself)

http://www.cta-otc.gc.ca/rulings-dec...decisions/2006/A/436-A-2006_e.html
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:40 am

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 4):
LAst night, there was a flight A330 indeed.

Actually in the last 24 hours 3 MEA A332's flew out of YUL. 2 were destined for Damascus, Syria, and the other for Lisbon, Portugal.

MEA7118 YUL-DAM departed 15:31 (AUg 16) A332

MEA7120 YUL-DAM departed 22:03 (Aug 16) A332

MEA7122 YUL-LIS departed 02:41 (AUG 17) A332
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:42 am

Quoting UnitedFirst (Reply 3):
I'm assuming that this was a charter, as MEA does not offer scheduled service to North America at all, let alone YUL

Derek, If MEA ever decide to offer scheduled service to North-America, YUL will be the first destination on their list.
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
 
UnitedFirst
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:16 am

Thank you Thenoflyzone, I'm very well aware of that. I'm simply pointing out the fact that there is no service to North America period.
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:21 am

Thats pretty good. I didnt know that MEA's A330 were the ones that can fly long range. It must be cool to see that. Anyone shoot pics?

MCOflyer
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Thenoflyzone
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:32 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 8):
Anyone shoot pics?


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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 8):
Anyone shoot pics?



Quoting Soups (Reply 2):
MEA been flying to Sydney and Canada for evacuation

Here are pictures of the same plane in SYD a couple of weeks later...


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AK
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naritaflyer
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:19 pm

Those were charters for the government of Canada to evacuate Canadians.

I like the MEA livery. Nice looking colour scheme.
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:02 pm

I knew I wasn't seeing things when I saw an MEA 330 landing at YUL 2 days ago. I was at the Rogers Cup, watching tennis, when I saw it come in for a landing. MEA (and AC) should really think about lobbying to get the YUL-BEY route opened up. It's just ridiculous that the government is not allowing it.
"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
 
naritaflyer
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:16 pm

Yulguy,
your government is being pressured by the US government to prevent a direct link. Americans think that terrorists would come to the US via Canada. Air Canada applied for the route but was turned down by the government citing security concerns.
Keep in mnd, however, that insurance rates to BEY make flights very expensive.
 
yulguy
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:10 am

Everyone assumes that the Government of Canada backed down on the YUL-BEY direct link due to U.S. pressure. I believe this myself, but has anyone in the Canadian government ever really acknowledged that this was the reason why the link was nixed? It seems a bit silly that officials don't think that a direct link will be a security threat. I mean anyone can fly from BEY to YUL via CDG on Air France if they want. And YUL has direct links to Morocco and Egypt. No problem there.
"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:27 am

Quoting Yulguy (Reply 14):
YUL has direct links to Morocco and Egypt. No problem there.

No problem indeed. However, Morocco and Egypt are not Lebanon.

Don't Morocco and Egypt even have directs links to the US as well?
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Thenoflyzone
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:59 am

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 15):
Don't Morocco and Egypt even have directs links to the US as well?

Yes they do.

MS985 CAI-JFK 10:15 - 15:15 B772

AT200 CMN-JFK 11:30 - 15:40 B763

AK
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting Naritaflyer (Reply 13):
your government is being pressured by the US government to prevent a direct link

That theory is not consistent. PIA flies non-stop from Pakistan to Toronto 3 times a week, but BEY-YUL is a security threat?...Bull !

Pakistan is as much of a security threat to the States than is Lebanon.

YUL-BEY will eventually happen! It's inevitable.
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 15):
However, Morocco and Egypt are not Lebanon.

Thanks for the geography lesson  Smile I guess the point I was trying to make is what is the beef with Lebanon compared to other predominantly muslim countries? Why is there a perception that a direct flight to BEY is any more dangerous than the direct flight to Casablanca or Cairo?
"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:49 pm

Quoting Yulguy (Reply 18):
Why is there a perception that a direct flight to BEY is any more dangerous than the direct flight to Casablanca or Cairo

Because the Beirut Airport lies within the area that is inhabitaed by Hizbullah supporters (mostly Shiites) in the southern suburb of Beirut...But the airport is obviously under the legitimate Lebanese Government.
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:17 pm

As long as Hezbollah remains in Lebanon, and Canada continues to be run by conservatives... you can FORGET YULBEY for the next decade.

Lebanon gets rid of Hizbollah, there will be a flight.. simple.
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:43 am

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 15):

Don't Morocco and Egypt even have directs links to the US as well?

Not only that, Air Algerie is about to start services to Montreal: whooooooo 200 terrorists per day!

I believe that the decisions not to serve Beirut is very political, with "terrorists" in that country being on the "terrorist list" and the fact that Montreal also has a large jewish community which may influence the government against such authorizations.

I should mention that I read earlier this week that MEA aircraft was also used to airlift Ethiopians back to their homelands.

[Edited 2006-08-19 19:46:42]
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:25 am

Air Algérie will be coming to YUL? That's great! When do they start services? On what time of aircraft? Frequency?

Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 20):
As long as Hezbollah remains in Lebanon, and Canada continues to be run by conservatives... you can FORGET YULBEY for the next decade.

Unortunately, you are probably right. It's so disappointing. I'm sure it would be a profitable route for AC.
"Celui qui diffère de moi, loin de me léser, m'enrichit." - Saint-Exupéry
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:57 pm

Quoting Yulguy (Reply 22):
Air Algérie will be coming to YUL? That's great! When do they start services? On what time of aircraft? Frequency?

http://www.africanflyer.com/2006/07/...a-to-offer-canada-algeria-service/
 
6thfreedom
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:28 pm

Quoting FLYYUL (Reply 20):
As long as Hezbollah remains in Lebanon, and Canada continues to be run by conservatives... you can FORGET YULBEY for the next decade.

Lebanon gets rid of Hizbollah, there will be a flight.. simple.

Please educate yourself....

please refe to this link for a 9 minute lesson...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm
 
yegbey01
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:36 pm

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 24):

this is not a forum to showcase political opinions.....

jutst as an fyi....for the vast majority of "true" lebanese, Hizbullah need not exist anymore..end of a story
 
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RE: MEA Larnaca To Montreal?

Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:41 pm

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 25):
this is not a forum to showcase political opinions.....

jutst as an fyi....for the vast majority of "true" lebanese, Hizbullah need not exist anymore..end of a story

Ok, point taken.

However, you cannot to deny how closely aviation is tied to politics.
It's just the nature of the industry, so to ignore it altogether doesn't achieve anything...

FYI - your comment that hezbollah need not exist anymore astounds me, given that they were voted into parliament through democratic elections.

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