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AA DC-10 @ SAN Yesterday?

Tue Jun 27, 2000 5:59 am

OK, I am at a friend's BBQ in San Diego yesterday, when I hear a plane overhead and immediately look up (a Pavlovian reaction, I guess). I was surprised to see a DC-10 (obviously descending, as my friend lives under the approach to SAN). There aren't many DC-10s that come into SAN.

It was basically directly overhead, so it was difficult to make out the airline. However, it turned slightly, and I was definitely able to make out the silver bird's AA logo! Did anyone see an AA DC-10 at SAN yesterday? I thought they weren't flying those into SAN any more. Maybe it was an emergency equipment replacement from LAX?
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Extra Section..

Tue Jun 27, 2000 6:30 am

It was an extra section to protect passengers form the ORD-SAN flight. The DC10 operated ORD-LAX-SAN.
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RE: AA DC-10 @ SAN Yesterday?

Tue Jun 27, 2000 7:18 am

Yes, I saw it too. I was at Shakespeare Pub on India Street overlooking for this private function and I got a good view of the airport and was damn surprised to see the AA DC10 at the gate! When I got home i got on the computer and had a hard time finding the flight but eventually caught it on's flighttracker just as it was descending into LAX.
I had a good time watching all the other airport operations as well. I saw an ATA 727 (rare in SD) and it seemed like all of the AA flights were delayed so there was a lot of activity around that terminal. It was so hot and humid yesterday so everyone left the private thing early. Another reason may have been the screaming fans watching the Euro 2000 soccer matches in the Pub too.

CannedSpam: What do you mean by "protecting" passengers on the ORD-SAN flight? Were there delays in ORD or something? Thanks.

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RE: AA DC-10 @ SAN Yesterday?

Tue Jun 27, 2000 8:23 am

"Protecting" usually refers to ensuring that passengers who miss their connections are able to get an alternate flight. I assume that the previous ORD-SAN flight was delayed so they continued the ORD-LAX flight to SAN with the passengers who misconnected.
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RE: AA DC-10 @ SAN Yesterday?

Tue Jun 27, 2000 8:24 am

I don't think that was a scheduled flight because American no longer operates DC-10's within the United States except Honolulu. What could have happend was that the aircraft normally scheduled to fly to San Diego was grounded due to a technical malfunction so they subsituted that flight with a spare aircraft that was available, that's called an off schedule operation.
I saw that in Chicago three months ago when I was waiting for my flight to New York. The flight to Dallas that is normally supposed to be a 777 was that evening a DC-10 because they(American) needed it in Dallas to fly to Honolulu the next morning, I imagine that maybe they already had a spare 777 in Dallas. These things happen, when an aircraft is grounded the equipment can change at the last minute, but yes it happens rarely. You won't see AA DC-10's anymore in six months from now.

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RE: AA DC-10 @ SAN Yesterday?

Tue Jun 27, 2000 8:41 am

Last year I stood ontop of the 'infamous' parking garage and saw a FedEx DC10 come in just before I was kicked out. Quite a sight for such a large aircraft to come into SAN, similar to the BA B747.

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RE: AA DC-10 @ SAN Yesterday?

Tue Jun 27, 2000 3:02 pm

The DC10 you refer to was originally scheduled as a ferry flight from ORD-LAX on Sunday, 25June at 10:00am. I believe it was used on a charter earlier and was being repositioned for normal LAX-HNL routing. The ferry flight was cancelled and it flew ORD-LAX as scheduled flight 579 ORD-LAX with 276 pax onboard (ORD-SAN 8:35am flight 1447 with 129 pax was cancelled earlier and all other ORD-SAN flights were oversold). It continued LAX-SAN as flight 579 departing at 1:28pm (gate 49A) and arriving SAN at 2:19pm (gate 31) with 126 pax. Returned to LAX as flight 9008 (non-scheduled operation) leaving at 3:01pm and arriving at 3:45pm with 71 pax (AA flight 1006 SAN-ORD at 1:38pm was cancelled - aircraft from ORD never arrived).

"Protecting" passengers is what it sounds like; protecting passenger travel plans. Passenger service folks (agents, baggage, etc.) will know immediately which flight to route passengers from delayed/cancelled flights to and the protection flight will know to expect added pax/cargo and a delayed departure.
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