sq452
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Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:02 am

Im flying next week from BOS to HKG with a layover between AA (Eagle) and CX (the afternoon non-stop flight) in JFK. The layover is about 2 and a half hours and I will have to switch terminals.

Originally, what I was going to do before the terror alert a few weeks ago, is check my bags to JFK, pick them up at the AA claim, then cart them over and check them in at the CX terminal. But given the lengthy lines I am hearing of, the airlines recommendations, and the time constraints, I probably will wind up checking them completely through to HKG when I check in with AA.

Now, the only two times I have flown with AA (both decent flights) claiming bags at bagge claim took over 45 minutes @ BOS.

So my question is, is there a way CX can still track my bag even with AA bag tags and how is "interlining" baggage at JFK between airlines (especially AA and CX)?? Since the flights leave at the really non-busy times of the day (12 from BOS, 3 ish from JFK) I imagine the lines would be pretty empty.

What would you guys do with the bags? and how do airlines track bags checked in with different airlines? Would you check the bags all the way through, or, check to JFK, then re-check in at JFK with CX???

Any insight and expertise is greatly appreciated, thanks  Smile
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lincoln
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:20 am

Quoting SQ452 (Thread starter):
So my question is, is there a way CX can still track my bag even with AA bag tags and how is "interlining" baggage at JFK between airlines (especially AA and CX)?? Since the flights leave at the really non-busy times of the day (12 from BOS, 3 ish from JFK) I imagine the lines would be pretty empty.

I can't speak for AA/CX, but the airlines should exchange the information with each other automatically.

For example, I once did LAX-ORD-LAX on UA with ORD-DTW-PLN-DTW-ORD on NW; on the flight back I got paranoid about my luggage and asked the UA agent -- "Yep, I see your bag in the reservation, and it is on the ground here in Chicago, but it doesn't look like Northwest has delivered the bag to us yet. If you want, you can check with me before we leave, and I'll make sure it's on for you"

Right before boarding, I checked with the agent again, and she said something like "We got the bag from Northwest, and it was loaded on the aircraft at xxxxxx; enjoy your flight."

Meanwhile, while doing the same thing on DL SAN-ATL-DTW-CVG-SAN and NW DTW-PLN-DTW because of a few "hiccups" with my checkin, I asked the Mesaba agent at DTW... "I gaurntee your bag is on the airplane."

When I got to PLN...no bag. Turns out the Don't Expect Luggage To Arrive airline had decided my bag would like spending a little extra time in Atlanta. On my way back I had a conversation with a Mesaba supe in DTW -- "Oh, I don't know why she would have told you that; we have no way of telling where luggage is until it's missing".

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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:30 am

At that time of the day, I suggest claiming your bags from AA and rechecking them with CX. The CX flight to HKG is the only widebody leaving Terminal 7 at that time so it really shouldn't be too busy.

Once you have your bags, you will be at CX checkin within 5-8 minutes...It is one stop on the AirTrain, and a one-two minute walk once you get off the AirTrain at Terminal 7.

Although checking your bags all the way through would be ok as well. It's really a matter of personal preference....

[Edited 2006-08-21 23:31:37]
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:31 am

I appreciate that. I did BOS>SFO>SIN with BOS>SFO on UA, and SFO>SIN on SQ. I checked the bag all the way through from BOS. When I got to the SQ gate (the connection time wasn't that much) I asked the agent, and he said "no not yet, but I will keep checking." Well, I got on the plane and he comes down the aisle and says "they just put the bags on the plane your all set."

Good agent, good customer service. I regularly fly star alliance carriers, but going from AA to CX will be my first time with them, and with OneWorld. I would like to think that that info gets from AA to CX due to their alliance, and the fact that the AA flight I am on actually is a CX codeshare (although I am booked with AA for that).

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 1):
When I got to PLN...no bag.

Did you ever get your bag back?
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:33 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
I suggest claiming your bags from AA and rechecking them with CX.

How is AA at getting bags from the plane to the baggage claim quickly at JFK? Both times I took AA in Boston it was madness, and I waited forever...

[Edited 2006-08-21 23:36:34]
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:42 am

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 3):
Did you ever get your bag back?

Yeah, it showed up at about noon the next day. (My cousin, who had an interline itinerary into PLN for our grandparent's 50th wedding aniversary wasn't so lucky -- after 5 days it was time for her to fly back home...still no bag; but that was an (IIRC) US-NW-NW-NW-US itinerary)

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 3):
would like to think that that info gets from AA to CX due to their alliance,

Both of those airlines are well-respected, so I wouldn't be too worried. I still find it amusing, though, that I had absolutely no problems doing UA-NW-NW-NW-NW-UA, but my bag was delayed when I did DL-DL-NW-NW-DL-DL- an all-SkyTeam itinerary.

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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting SQ452 (Reply 4):
How is AA at getting bags from the plane to the baggage claim quickly at JFK?

I flew into the new Terminal 9 at JFK about two months ago (where you will be flying into) and had to wait about 20 or so minutes for my bags (from an A300 though). BUT it is a fairly decent walk to the baggage claim at T9. So I would suggest spending ten minutes or so walking around the new concourse as it is the nicest at JFK before heading to the baggage claim. Hopefully by that time your bags will have been out already...

Terminal 7 is great to fly from as well if you aren't familiar with it. The CX check-in is very conveniently located (close to both the entrance and to the security checkpoint); once through security all of the gates are very close.

As I said, T7 is very, very quiet then so you shouldn't have to worry either way you check your bags.
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:57 am

That's what it looks like. Pretty empty at terminal 7 at that hour, not sure how the AA arrivals are at that hour. The only problem (never have had this happen) if you check then claim, then recheck, is if the bag never makes it to JFK...then you are really stuck!!! But I have never seen that happen.
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:26 am

Quoting SQ452 (Thread starter):
So my question is, is there a way CX can still track my bag even with AA bag tags and how is "interlining" baggage at JFK between airlines

The baggage tracing system is a multi-carrier system. Many carriers participate in the system (called WorldTrack I believe). All Oneworld partners participate, as well as Skyteam and Star. One tracer traces tags isssued by any participating carrier.
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:09 am

Had this been a year ago, I would say through check your bags to HKG. However, this past summer, the amount of misconnected bags has been crazy. Triangle Aviation Services is responsible for moving all connecting bags between the terminals. Unfortunately, instead of taking bags from Terminal 8/9 (American) straight to Terminal 7 (Cathay Pacific), they usually go right around the airport, to all 8 terminals (I'm excluding Terminal 5 as this is unoccupied at the moment). As a result, connecting baggage takes more than an hour to get from say terminal 8 back to terminal 7 as it has to do the entire rounds of the airport (depending of course which direction the driver is going in). I know Aer Lingus (Terminal 4) complains about waiting several hours to pick up bags from American (Terminal 8/9) because the drivers have to go the entire length of the airport stopping at all terminals before they get to T4. So basically, do yourself a favor and and reclaim your bags at JFK. Once you have the bags, it's one stop over with the Air Train. Check-in and TSA lines should not be too bad at that time of day. At least once you're on the check-in line, they won't leave you behind. Cannot say the same for your baggage if it's through checked.

As for tracing baggage, CX will most likely not have any record of your bag unless it has been delivered to Terminal 7. As long as it is at Terminal 8/9, it will stilll show up as missing. There was talk a while back about implementing an airport wide scanning system. However, as far as I know, this is only done on an airline to airline basis.
 
sq452
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RE: Interlinning Baggage @ JFK Question

Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:12 pm

Good advice, the AA arrivals don't look too busy at that time so I think I will wind up doing that. The time of day (even with the most recent security increases) should make getting the bag and checking in again ok.
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