American777
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Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:30 am

Boeing today re-delivered to KE their first 747-400BCF.

Here is a link on the First KE Special Freighter Delivery.

As far as I know these are the orders that have been place so far:

CX: 6 firm/6 options

KE: 7 firm/13 options

JL: 8 firm/4 options

CC: 4 firm/no options

Total: 25 firm/23 options

Am I missing any other BCF orders that have been placed recently? If so which.

Thanks for the replies.

Cheers!

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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:42 am

MP will take 3 (ex SQ) if I'm right. First one to become PH-MPP.

JL's second will be re-delivered in Dec-06 being JA8909, currently having conversion at XMN/Taeco.
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:47 am

Quoting American777 (Thread starter):
Am I missing any other BCF orders that have been placed recently? If so which.

Guggenheim ?
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:56 pm

The article mentions something about a freighter kit. Does anyone know what exactly is included in this conversion kit? Window plugs, extra cargo doors...?
 
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:56 pm

The freighter conversion kit includes aircraft avionics system upgrade, cargo loader system, side cargo door kit (Non-744M), window plugs and cargo deck cabin wall.
 
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:17 pm

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 4):
The freighter conversion kit includes aircraft avionics system upgrade, cargo loader system, side cargo door kit (Non-744M), window plugs and cargo deck cabin wall.

...and upperdeck cabin reconfiguration including new galley and lav, aft upperdeck floorbeam replacement/relocation, main deck floor structure upgrades, conditioned air system rework, lav/galley vent system removal, forward lower cargo heating system rework, cargo floor drain system installation, vacuum waste system removal, water system rework, etc.

Tod
 
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting A342 (Reply 2):
Guggenheim ?

Yes Guggenheim have ordered 5 x 744BCF and 2 x 744 Combi-Freighter conversions for a total of 7.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/nr_051018g.html

It would appear that QF may well be added to the 744BCF list shortly too.

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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 6):
Yes Guggenheim have ordered 5 x 744BCF



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
MP will take 3 (ex SQ) if I'm right. First one to become PH-MPP.

MP's order of four ex-SQ is part of the Guggenheim order
 
SP90
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:59 am

Quoting Andrewtang (Reply 4):
The freighter conversion kit includes aircraft avionics system upgrade, cargo loader system, side cargo door kit (Non-744M), window plugs and cargo deck cabin wall.



Quoting Tod (Reply 5):
...and upperdeck cabin reconfiguration including new galley and lav, aft upperdeck floorbeam replacement/relocation, main deck floor structure upgrades, conditioned air system rework, lav/galley vent system removal, forward lower cargo heating system rework, cargo floor drain system installation, vacuum waste system removal, water system rework, etc.

Never knew that much went into converting a passenger aircraft for cargo. This sounds complicated and very time consuming. Is the finished product the same empty weight as a factory build cargo version? Would there be certain items from the passenger version that cannot be removed but serve mo purpose in cargo hauling?
 
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RE: Boeing 747-400BCF

Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:16 am

Quoting SP90 (Reply 8):
Is the finished product the same empty weight as a factory build cargo version?

The factory version is slightly heavier due to the nose cargo door.

Tod

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