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Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:04 am

It has been rumoured more often lately... FI is taking a look at Canada once again! After many years of flying to Halifax (still a cargo service going there), it seems to be that talk of a Canadian destination gets more serious now.

I am not really sure about a year round service KEF-YWG-KEF, and wonder how many rotations would be made by week if FI decides to add YWG as a destination. As far as I know, only Zoom Airlines has direct schedules services between Europe to YWG and v.v.

Winnipeg is not the most important Canadian destination from a European tourist point of view and besides that, the article states that a population of about 100.000 people descends from Icelanders... My guess is that some of them would want to travel to Iceland, but that would be a low percentage nevertheless. Icelanders here are not really enthousiastic about a holiday to YWG. I can recall that a charter flight during summer a few years ago had to be filled on its empty legs to YWG as a choir was flying there to from KEF, but they could not fill the empty legs! So would YWG be a successfull operation?

Just read the next article and let me know what you think about it.

Btw: This is a funny article actually... As I have not seen any red carpets here being rolled out for a "Doer". I actually just read from this article that the guy was over here on a visit. It has not been much in the media here  Wink

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...gnews/story/3653137p-4223441c.html

Breaking News

Icelanders roll out the red carpet as Doer seeks direct flights to Reykjavik

Premier Gary Doer is getting the red carpet treatment this week on a three-day tour of Iceland on the invitation of the country’s former Prime Minister.
Doer arrived in Iceland Thursday for a trip planned following the visit to Winnipeg and Gimli by former Prime Minister Halldór Ásgrímsson in August 2005.

Friday night current Prime Minister Geir H. Haarde is hosting a state dinner for Doer, who has also set up a number of business meetings with Icelandic finance, pharmaceutical and energy companies.

Doer also had a meeting with the CEO of IcelandAir Thursday, to discuss plans to begin a direct flight between Winnipeg and Reykjavik which would be the only direct flight between Canada and Iceland.

With Manitoba home to the largest Icelandic population outside of Iceland, it makes sense to link the two locales by air, said Doer. It’s estimated there are 100,000 people of Icelandic descent living in Manitoba.

The flight could also be a gateway into Europe, as Reykjavik already serves as a hub for flights between the U.S. and Europe.
 
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:15 am

There coukld be some transfer traffic to Europe but that would probably be low yielding

Quoting Northernlights (Thread starter):
the article states that a population of about 100.000 people descends from Icelanders.

How many generations ago did their families come to Winnipeg? If they have came 4/5 generations ago, the links will obviously be less stronger than if they came more recently.
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:40 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
How many generations ago did their families come to Winnipeg? If they have came 4/5 generations ago, the links will obviously be less stronger than if they came more recently.

Hello Humberside,
Here is the answer to your question:
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:18 am

Now that AC has announced new 763 skeds from YEG-LHR, YWG will now be the largest Canadian city without scheduled flights to Europe. So a 2-3x weekly FI 752 service certainly has the potential to fill a demand and make money.

The Icelandic ties aside (and I agree the ties are weak as most Icelandic immigrants to MB arrived generations ago), FI has developed KEF as a mid-atlantic hub of sorts, so it suggests that YWG could certainly support 2-3 weekly 752 service to KEF with easy connections to GLA, MAN, LHR, FRA, CPH, ARN etc.

AC used to operate L15/762 service to LHR and CP 742/D10 service to AMS (each was 2-3x weekly in the summer) from YWG, so there would seem to be a service gap from YWG to Europe.

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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:47 am

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 3):
Now that AC has announced new 763 skeds from YEG-LHR, YWG will now be the largest Canadian city without scheduled flights to Europe.

I'm splitting hairs here, but I believe Québec and Hamilton are both now larger metro areas than Winnipeg. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...gest_metropolitan_areas_in_Canada.

Though, I suppose one could argue that both YHM and YYZ support the Hammer's metropolitan area - I'm sure both YWG and YQB would get Europe service well before YHM ever would.
 
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:30 am

With FI cutting MSP from their winter schedule, I can't really see how YWG would make it.
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 5):
With FI cutting MSP from their winter schedule, I can't really see how YWG would make it.

Perhaps MSP isn't cold enough for the Icelandics and they're looking to step up their game in YWG.  Wink
 
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:40 am

Icelandair can't even maintain BCN/MAD to KEF except over the summer months! I don't really know why they insist on flying only to those airports in Spain, since they would be able to maintain a all-year round flight to ALC for instance if they so desired.

Point being, YWG is probably not maintainble by Icelandair. They want routes with better yields. However, it is always possible that the Icelandic government encourages such a route by subsidies or other incentives for Icelandair.

We shall see what happens, but I really doubt that YWG-KEF will be opened by Icelandair anytime soon.

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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:47 pm

Unless FI improve their conection times to MAN, you can foret about MAN or YWG benefitting from an FI service between the 2 cities via KEF.

MAN must be one of the very few FI destinations which is completely out of synch with its transatlantic onward connections.
 
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:00 pm

Winterpeg seems like an unlikely destination for Icelandair. Maybe there are people in Manitoba who can trace their ancestry back to Iceland but Toronto is the fifth biggest city in N America, and far richer pickings than anything the prairies can cook up.

That said, Winterpeg is something of a fascination for me, although I've never visited, I love Canada and all the best bands, funniest people and hottest girls are from The Peg, but everyone - especially people from there - all say it's a shithole. How can it be, if it's exports are so incredible? I can't wait to go there and check it out. But when I do, I don't think it'll be on Icelandair. Sorry.
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:58 pm

A bit off topic, but SAS flew here many years ago. But that was just a fuel stop for the propliners on the way to LAX.
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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:14 am

Quoting MyOthrCarsA777 (Reply 4):
Though, I suppose one could argue that both YHM and YYZ support the Hammer's metropolitan area - I'm sure both YWG and YQB would get Europe service well before YHM ever would.

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RE: Rumours Of Icelandair Flying To Winnipeg

Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:30 am

Think YWG could work on a subsidized basis, but amongst "secondary cities", YHZ seems the most sustainable destination in Canada supported by Cargo shipments of seafood to KEF and FI's points beyond.
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