BenThePlaneHen
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FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:20 pm

Hello,
I have some questions about Frankfurt airport on Google Earth. First what is that small terminal building on the south side of the airport with two jetways?
Also I noticed there is a Condor B767 old colours parked at pier A. I thought Condor re-painted their aircraft.
Thanks

Sorry I couldn't provide any pictures.
 
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:26 pm

Well in regards to the Condor 767, the images from google earth are not brand new. They may be a few years old, for instance the images of my neighborhood are circa 1999-2001.
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:30 pm

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 1):
Well in regards to the Condor 767, the images from google earth are not brand new. They may be a few years old, for instance the images of my neighborhood are circa 1999-2001.

Agreed. Not all areas are up to date. My neighborhood is taken around 2002. So the Condor aircraft is already repainted by now most likely. As for the terminal, I have no clue.

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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:19 pm

Quoting BenThePlaneHen (Thread starter):
First what is that small terminal building on the south side of the airport with two jetways?

That is the Terminal of the former Rhein-Main Air Base (closed in 2005) operated by the US Air Force for military charter flights, troop rotations, and Space-A travel.
In short AMC flights (formerly MAC) would use the terminal. Thus you'd see World Airways, Omni Air, North American Airlines, ATA and other chartered UA, NW, CO planes using the terminal.
The Rhein-Main Air Base buildings will be demolished in favor of a new and pretty big Terminal 3 used and operated by the Frankfurt Airport operator Fraport.
Since 2006, those military AMC flights operated either through Ramstein Air Base in Germany or civilian airports in Germany and eastern Europe.
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:38 pm

Quoting PanAmerican (Reply 3):
That is the Terminal of the former Rhein-Main Air Base (closed in 2005) operated by the US Air Force for military charter flights, troop rotations, and Space-A travel.
In short AMC flights (formerly MAC) would use the terminal. Thus you'd see World Airways, Omni Air, North American Airlines, ATA and other chartered UA, NW, CO planes using the terminal.

Correct sir, used to work at that place many, many years ago as a young airman. Shifted back and forth between Passenger Service and Ramp Operations. Back during the time I was there (78-80) it was not uncommon to see 4-5 DC-8 and DC-10's scattered on the ramp.

However back in those days while you still saw the World tails, but also Flying Tiger, ONA, Trans International, Capitol and Airlift International. Every few months a Pan Am 707 would cruise thru on the way to McGuire. The terminal had a bank, travel office and a snack bar on the departure level.

It will be sad to see this place gone, a lot of good memories there....
 
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:39 pm

Thanks a lot for those answears!!!
 
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:12 pm

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 4):
It will be sad to see this place gone, a lot of good memories there....

Absolutely agreed, it was a great place and very important in history. Those C-5s and C-17s will be missed. It's great to see someone here who served there and knows about the place and it's spirit!

Here is a thread on the closure: Rhein-Main Air Base Closure (by PanAmerican Sep 27 2005 in Military Aviation & Space Flight) with some good links to articles and pics.

Additionally, here are some pics of the terminal:





I couldn't find any inside pics though, maybe later...
The old Air BaseTerminal was shortly used again in 2006 for some of the World Cup charters but then closed and is awaiting its fate now.
By the way, the military housing area "Gateway Gardens" of the Air Base was not to the south but to the northeast of the airport. You would also be able to recognize that on Google Earth by the funnily structured buildings between the highways next to Terminal 2:
This is also what it will look like once the Air Base is gone and the new Terminal and runway are built:
http://www.faz.net/m/{BE05DA56-8BC4-489D-888F-F350DFCAD3CD}picture.gif

http://www.charliebravo.de/location/eddf/ausbauplan_fra.jpg

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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:41 pm

Wow, excellent pics. Thanks for the trip down memory lane, looks to be all we will have in the not too distant future. The second pic is probably from around my time there, taken from the small tower atop the Base Operations building, looking toward the west.

From the looks of the diagram for T3, the base of the southwest concourse sits where my old dorm is located. Too many parties with the Postal ladies on the first floor, and way too many Binding Romer Pils consumed there..:D

Quoting PanAmerican (Reply 6):
By the way, the military housing area "Gateway Gardens" of the Air Base was not to the south but to the northeast of the airport. You would also be able to recognize that on Google Earth by the funnily structured buildings between the highways next to Terminal 2:

That was the running joke while I was there, it was often affectionately referred to as "Gateway Ghetto", but while looking a little rough on the outside they were quite nice inside, most of them having been renovated while I was there. Certainly much nicer than the Air Force housing area at Langen, just south east of the base..
 
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:48 pm

Must have been quite loud in Gateway Gardens with all the heavily frequented roads surrounding it. AFAIK it is now property of the City of Frankfurt, since Fraport was not quick enough to snap it up. It will most likely be used for hotels and a convention center.
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:18 pm

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 8):
Must have been quite loud in Gateway Gardens with all the heavily frequented roads surrounding it. AFAIK it is now property of the City of Frankfurt, since Fraport was not quick enough to snap it up. It will most likely be used for hotels and a convention center.

It actually was not too bad. There was an abundance of trees within Gateway, which kept the noise down quite a bit. With a four-lane highway (43) to the north, the A5 to the east, and the A3 and Runways 25 L/R to the south you would have thought it would have been considerably noisier than it was..
 
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:33 pm

If you want to see something interesting at FRA....

lat=50.0507670365, lon=8.61560787145

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3959/lufthansaxc9.jpg

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http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6838/lufthansano6.jpg
 
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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:21 am

Quoting Soyuzavia (Reply 10):
If you want to see something interesting at FRA....

lat=50.0507670365, lon=8.61560787145

You do realize that's one and the same plane, right? Pretty cool how close you can zoom in on the planes, though. You can also clearly see the to World Airways birds at the Air Base.

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 7):
Thanks for the trip down memory lane

No problem, after all that's what will stay (along with the Berlin Airlift Memorial). If you want the full view of how the place looked shortly before closing down, check out these pics:
http://community.webshots.com/album/422457849fGwAQS

There is also one more pic of the terminal:
http://image55.webshots.com/55/1/14/60/422511460gLsRFE_ph.jpg

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 7):
Too many parties with the Postal ladies on the first floor, and way too many Binding Romer Pils consumed there..:D

I can imagine, lol... By the way: happy third A.net anniversary!

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RE: FRA On Google Earth

Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting PanAmerican (Reply 11):
You do realize that's one and the same plane, right?

Of course. It's because the high resolution pics are often done not by satellite photography, but by aerial photography. I've got other misnomers like the LH 747s in my placemarks.