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Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:03 pm

For our WV a.neters here it is. KCRWFlyer I know was hoping for CRW and ATCRick did all he could but it looks like it goes to that other airport.

Allegiant is starting HTS-SFB service on Nov 3. Huntington WV flights will initially operate Tues and Fri.
http://www.allegiantair.com/aaNews20060830a.php

http://www.allegiantair.com/aaRouteMap.php

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:43 pm

You know, it could work well. CRW is close, but it has no MCO or SFB service, and driving to CVG is really inconvenient (I've done it). I'm sure G4 will pull it if it fails, but I could see it working.
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:57 pm

Who is doing their route map? It looks like HTS is where CRW is supposed to be - isn't HTS on the Ohio River?
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:18 am

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Reply 2):
Who is doing their route map? It looks like HTS is where CRW is supposed to be - isn't HTS on the Ohio River?

I'm blind, i don't even see it on the map. But I see they removed ORH already. When did GSP start? One hole I see, they don't have anything in the mid-atlantic I-95 area. From south of DC to north of Philly. ILG or TTN being looked at?
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:24 am

FATFlyer... Is G4 still avoiding MDT because of the high costs to operate from the airport?
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:52 am

My gosh I just took a gander at the route map, Allegiant has grown! HTS last I looked had service only from DL Conx and US Exp with some CRJs & Dash8s - a nice change...

Wonder since they now serve ROA if they will ever serve CHO? I know CHO was excited when DL Conx announced service to MCO from there...alas they cut it before it started.

Does anyone know is Allegiant planning on replacing their MD-80s with newer equipment or picking up more of what everyone else is leaving behind ?

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:26 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Thread starter):
initially operate Tues and Fri

Is this the first Tuesday flight at SFB?
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:46 am

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 5):
Does anyone know is Allegiant planning on replacing their MD-80s with newer equipment or picking up more of what everyone else is leaving behind ?

They will probably see a new type in a few years but the number of Mad Dogs will continue to grow in the next year.

Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
Is this the first Tuesday flight at SFB?

GSP will also have Tuesdays but will start after HTS.
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:11 am

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 7):
Quoting Humberside (Reply 6):
Is this the first Tuesday flight at SFB?

GSP will also have Tuesdays but will start after HTS.

You think there will be even more Tuesday flights? Labor costs would be running a bit high just for one or two flights....
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:57 am

How in the world do you choose HTS!!!  Angry

I really used to think Allegiant was doing everything right. This is almost sickening.

Wheres ATCRick lately?

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 5):
My gosh I just took a gander at the route map, Allegiant has grown! HTS last I looked had service only from DL Conx and US Exp with some CRJs & Dash8s - a nice change...

Yes thats it. Dl is struggling there too from what I've been told. Theyve done all but pull out.


This flight will only do well if they can get alot of college kids I'd say. If DL or US reduce their fares to MCO from CRW to beat or meet G4's fare then that flight is doomed.

Talk about stupid......

Whos going to do their ground handling in HTS? Fedex!!????
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting PlaneGuy27 (Reply 2):
Who is doing their route map? It looks like HTS is where CRW is supposed to be - isn't HTS on the Ohio River?

Somebody at Allegiant must read these boards, its been fixed. HTS is now shown closer to the Ohio River and state border.
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:40 am

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 10):
Wheres ATCRick lately?

ATCRick had some serious things going on in his life. Rick, thinking of you buddy.

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 10):
Whos going to do their ground handling in HTS? Fedex!!????

Looks like part of the answer to that question is the reason for HTS.
Part of that success is because of the fact that the airport agreed to perform operational tasks -- such as staffing the counter and parking, refueling and deicing the planes -- that saved Allegiant from having to assign seven of their own employees here.
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 10):
I really used to think Allegiant was doing everything right. This is almost sickening.



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 10):
Talk about stupid......

Just because they don't serve your home airport, they're stupid?? They don't serve mine, either. Oh well...they're just a few hours up the road.

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:49 am

Quote:
Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 10):
Whos going to do their ground handling in HTS? Fedex!!????

Looks like part of the answer to that question is the reason for HTS.

Part of that success is because of the fact that the airport agreed to perform operational tasks -- such as staffing the counter and parking, refueling and deicing the planes -- that saved Allegiant from having to assign seven of their own employees here.

So will the people handling Allegiant's flights out of HTS be employed directly by the airport, or do they mean to say that a local FBO will handle their operations? If the former is the case, this the first I've heard of an airport actually providing the employees for an airline, though I know similar concepts are under consideration at other airports. It's a concept with which I'm not entirely comfortable, however with airlines that offer a limited schedule, such as Allegiant, it is a very cost-effective alternative.

To be completely honest, I was expecting CRW myself, however serving HTS instead does make a lot of sense. The airport sits in a prime spot not only to take advantage of nearby Charleston traffic, but there is quite a significant college population within easy reach in Marietta and Athens, OH and Morgantown, WV. Allegiant should have no problem filling those MD-80s to Florida.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:38 am

Good news for HTS. I wonder how long it's been since they've had mainline service?

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 13):
Just because they don't serve your home airport, they're stupid?? They don't serve mine, either. Oh well...they're just a few hours up the road.

The world does not revolve around you, nor does it revolve around Charleston, WV.

Dont start that. Im well aware the world doesnt revolve around any city or airport, but if you lived here you'd see where I'm coming from.

Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 14):
To be completely honest, I was expecting CRW myself, however serving HTS instead does make a lot of sense. The airport sits in a prime spot not only to take advantage of nearby Charleston traffic, but there is quite a significant college population within easy reach in Marietta and Athens, OH and Morgantown, WV. Allegiant should have no problem filling those MD-80s to Florida.

HTS is within easy reach of Morgantown..? PIT is alot closer. CRW is closer too. Im not sure but CMH may be about the same as HTS from MGW. I doubt we'll see anyone driving from morgantown...

I can see some folks flying G4 that outherwise wouldnt fly at all. I also see a potential fare war. DL and US probably wont let G4 cut into their Florida traffic so easily. That goes for HTS and CRW.

Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 14):
If the former is the case, this the first I've heard of an airport actually providing the employees for an airline, though I know similar concepts are under consideration at other airports. It's a concept with which I'm not entirely comfortable, however with airlines that offer a limited schedule, such as Allegiant, it is a very cost-effective alternative.

Yes, CRW also offers this service to airlines whom may be interested.
 
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:22 am

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 16):
I can see some folks flying G4 that outherwise wouldnt fly at all. I also see a potential fare war. DL and US probably wont let G4 cut into their Florida traffic so easily. That goes for HTS and CRW.

Then wouldn't they have really fought Allegiant at CRW? HTS might be less important to them and unless they see a lot of traffic driving to HTS they might not try as hard. HTS might be a better strategic move, less of a direct challenge. That might be one more reason.
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:10 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 7):
They will probably see a new type in a few years but the number of Mad Dogs will continue to grow in the next year.

Speaking of, how many birds does Allegiant currently have? How many aircraft do they plan on adding next year?

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:06 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 18):
Speaking of, how many birds does Allegiant currently have? How many aircraft do they plan on adding next year?

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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 19):
23. 3 MD-87s and 20 MD-83s. It was projected to reach 50 aircraft by 2007.

Very nice. They are growing very well. Almost what Reno Air was. I think Reno was at almost 30 aircraft.

50 seems a little much by 2007, but you never know.
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RE: Allegiant Announces SFB-HTS Huntington, WV Service

Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:14 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 19):
23. 3 MD-87s and 20 MD-83s. It was projected to reach 50 aircraft by 2007.

I'm not sure 50 by 2007 is quite right. I had heard the goal was 10 more aircraft in the next 10-12 months then 25 more in the 2 or 3 years after that.
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