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A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:03 am

The October 2006 edition of "Airways" magazine states that Airbus will end production of the A300 series next July. That's the first I've heard that this model will no longer be built. Can anyone confirm this...or has this been discussed before and I just missed it????
 
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:34 am

Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:35 am

Well with the A330F coming, I imagine the demand for the A300F would be drying up...
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:59 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 2):
Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!

It's been winding down but they're still currently making them :

http://www.airbus.com/en/myairbus/headlinenews/index.jsp


As of the end of July they've got 8 to deliver:

1 to UPS (see above link)
6 to FedEx
1 to Galaxy (whoever they are)

(Source Airbus orders and deliveries spread-sheet.
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:04 am

Last set of wings are currently in Jig at Broughton (UK). A set of these main assy jigs will be kept available until the a/c it is delivered to its customer next year, then its really goodbye and goodnight.
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:23 am

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 2):
Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!

Me too!

So are airbus building new freight a300's or are they just modifing old ones? And what is the price tag on one of these aircraft?
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:35 am

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 6):
So are airbus building new freight a300's or are they just modifing old ones? And what is the price tag on one of these aircraft?

Well, people can still have A300s converted to freighters at DRS.

AFAIK, a brandnew A300F4-605R/-622R is basically not a factory built freighter, but rather a full PAX aircraft with plugged windows, which goes for conversion to DRS (correct me if I'm wrong though). A bit different from what Douglas and Boeing did and still do, which is building them as freighters from the factory and offering conversions for aircraft already in service.
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 4):
1 to Galaxy (whoever they are)

Galaxy Airlines (alias Sagawa Express) is a Japanese cargo carrier based at HND which currently operates one used A300F-622R (ex-CAL).


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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
AFAIK, a brandnew A300F4-605R/-622R is basically not a factory built freighter, but rather a full PAX aircraft with plugged windows, which goes for conversion to DRS (correct me if I'm wrong though).

You're wrong. The A300s discussed in this article are newly built, as freighters. The ones you see in DRS are conversions. A few pictures to illustrate:

This one shows a converted A300-600 at DRS. You can clearly see where the cutting was done to install the cargo door, and you can see the plugged windows.

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Photo © Georg Noack



And this one is a newbuild. Nothing indicating any conversion work, and no plugged windows, as the windows were never there.

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Photo © OlivierG


[Edited 2006-08-30 21:08:50]
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:55 pm

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 9):
And this one is a newbuild. Nothing indicating any conversion work, and no plugged windows, as the windows were never there.

I stand corrected. Thank you. I must have gotten fooled somehow, but then again, Airbus isn't as big in the Freighter market as Boeing and Douglas are.

Thanks again for the correction.
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:19 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
I stand corrected. Thank you. I must have gotten fooled somehow, but then again, Airbus isn't as big in the Freighter market as Boeing and Douglas are.

Well, Douglas is long dead, and Airbus quite big in the market, maybe not as big as Boeing, but after all, they do offer the world's largest commercial freighter (A380F).

http://www.boeing.com/randy/archives/photos/freighter_products.html
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:26 pm

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 2):
Have to say I am surprised.... I thought they stopped making them years ago!



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 6):
Me too!

Me three! lol
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:47 pm

The A330F has not been launched yet. It may never be launch with the industrial launch for A350F coming up. Something to ponder.
 
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RE: A300 Production Ending?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:15 pm

Quoting Aviator27 (Reply 13):
The A330F has not been launched yet. It may never be launch with the industrial launch for A350F coming up. Something to ponder.

Think it will happen as the 330F will be cheaper than the 350F (almost fully amotized development costs) so there should be a market for both.