8herveg
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No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:21 am

Could someone please tell me how many BA flights there were between London Heathrow and New York JFK, and also what times they departed London.

Also, how many years was it that Concorde just operated the New York route before ceasing all operations?

Many thanks.
 
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:09 am

For most of the 1990s it was two returns each day, after it was brought back into service in Nov. 2001 the second daily was dropped.

BA001 left London at 10.30am arriving around 9am in New York
BA002 left JFK at 8.30am (I think) arriving in London at 5.30pm
BA003 left London in the early evening (used to come over my school near Reading around 7.30pm)
BA004 left JFK in the early afternoon arriving as the last scheduled flight into Terminal 4 at LHR at 10pm.

When BA announced they were pulling the Concorde flights in 2003 for the final summer they moved the BA001 departure to 6.30pm rendering it useless for those business passengers who were previously using it and rendering it much less useful for connecting flights..  thumbsdown 
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:05 am

There was often a spare Concorde at JFK. Whenever another flight 747 had a mechanical problem or major delay they often put the full fare first, business, and elites on that Concorde. It happened to me twice and a couple of times to a fellow I worked with in the early and mid-90s.

And, the counter people at JFK were really good at it. They would put on a sad face and apologize for my travel plans being disrupted. Then they would claim they had an alternative. They would then hand me a boarding pass (Concorde) with a slight smile on their face. Their apology would be about arriving in London several hours earlier than planned. One of these fellows said their entire job was worth seeing peoples' faces light up when they had that happen to them.

To me that was an ultimate in customer service recovery. And, it went a long way with loyalty that kept the revenue flow going to them.
 
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR &

Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:54 am

LHR JFK BA1 1234567 10:30/09:20 0 Concorde
JFK LHR BA2 1234567 08:45/17:25 0 Concorde

LHR JFK BA3 1234567 19:00/17:50 0 Concorde
JFK LHR BA4 1234567 13:45/22:25 0 Concorde


Both services were year round however BA3/4 was not operational for certain periods of the year. For example in 2000 BA3/4 wasn't operational between 31Jul and 30Aug and in 2001 between 30Jul and 29Aug. During the W98/99 timetable the Saturday BA3/4 was only operational between 25Oct and 26Dec.


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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:21 am

"And, the counter people at JFK were really good at it. They would put on a sad face and apologize for my travel plans being disrupted. Then they would claim they had an alternative. They would then hand me a boarding pass (Concorde) with a slight smile on their face. Their apology would be about arriving in London several hours earlier than planned. One of these fellows said their entire job was worth seeing peoples' faces light up when they had that happen to them.

To me that was an ultimate in customer service recovery. And, it went a long way with loyalty that kept the revenue flow going to them."


That is just freakin' awesome!!!!!  Smile Thanks for the story.

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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:26 am

Quoting Jcavinato (Reply 3):
And, the counter people at JFK were really good at it. They would put on a sad face and apologize for my travel plans being disrupted. Then they would claim they had an alternative. They would then hand me a boarding pass (Concorde) with a slight smile on their face. Their apology would be about arriving in London several hours earlier than planned. One of these fellows said their entire job was worth seeing peoples' faces light up when they had that happen to them.

To me that was an ultimate in customer service recovery. And, it went a long way with loyalty that kept the revenue flow going to them.

You see - BA's got a heart really.....somewhere.
 
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:50 pm

So if they only had two services daily, what did they do with all the other Concordes?

Ok there was a seasonal service to Barbados, but that was about it in the last few years of Concorde in service!
 
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:22 pm

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 7):
So if they only had two services daily, what did they do with all the other Concordes?

Ok there was a seasonal service to Barbados, but that was about it in the last few years of Concorde in service!

Well, BA only had 5 Concorde's flying after the AF crash, and each flight had to have another aircraft on Stand-by at LHR if the aircraft went tech, so 2 Concorde's would fly, 2 would be as back up, and the other aircraft would either be in maintenance, or on Saturday, going to Barbados.

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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:36 pm

Just found an old BA Concorde timetable, " valid until 15 March 1980".
Take a look at the prices of one way fares!

LHR to JFK:-

BA 173. Daily ex Wednesday, Friday
LHR(T3) Dep 0930
JFK Arr 0825

BA 171. Daily
LHR(T3) Dep 1115
JFK Arr 1010

JFK to LHR:-

BA 172. Daily ex Wednesday, Friday
JFK Dep 1015
LHR(T3) Arr 1900

BA 170. Daily
JFK Dep 1215
LHR(T3) Arr 2100

Cooncorde one way fare to New York is £604.50 or $1113.00

LHR to IAD to DFW:-

BA 189. Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday
LHR(T3) Dep 1830
IAD Arr 1755
IAD Dep 1840 as BN 189.
DFW Arr 2030

DFW to IAD to LHR:-

BN 188. Wednesday/Friday/Sunday
DFW Dep 0830
IAD Arr 1200
IAD Dep 1250 as BA 188.
LHR(T3) Arr 2200

Cooncorde one way fare to DFW is £674.50 or $1229.00


LHR to BAH(Muharraq) to SIN(Paya Lebar):-

BA 017. Monday/Wednesday/Friday
LHR(T3) Dep 1430
BAH Arr 2140
BAH Dep 2240 as SQ 017.
SIN Arr 0710

SIN(Paya Lebar) to BAH(Muharraq) to LHR:-

SQ 016. Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday
SIN Dep 1120
BAH Arr 1100
BAH Dep 1200 as BA 016.
LHR(T3) Arr 1320

Cooncorde one way fare to SIN is £1126.50 or SI$ 4798.00
 
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting Horus (Reply 4):
For example in 2000 BA3/4 wasn't operational between 31Jul and 30Aug and in 2001 between 30Jul and 29Aug.

I don't think any Concordes were flying commercially mid August 2000 until November 2001  Confused

Quoting Xtra1 (Reply 9):
Cooncorde one way fare to SIN is £1126.50 or SI$ 4798.00

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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR &

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:43 am

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 10):
I don't think any Concordes were flying commercially mid August 2000 until November 2001 Confused

I should've clarified that the dates posted are according to BA's S02 timetable which was published prior to the Paris crash.


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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:05 am

Quoting Xtra1 (Reply 9):
Take a look at the prices of one way fares

Are you sure about the prices. They look awfully cheap.
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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR &

Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:11 am

The prices are for the period, 1979-1980.
Thats inflation for you!

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RE: No. Of BA Concorde Flights Daily Between LHR & JFK

Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:41 am

I have a timetable from '89 that shows 3 daily flights LHR-JFK. I'll pull it out and post it.
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