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MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:26 am

What are the main differences between these two. Bisudes the winglets and different shape of wing engine.
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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:29 am

Glass cockpit of the MD-11, different engine no.2 nacelles (between non-40 DC-10s and the MD-11).
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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:32 am

How about you visit the following two pages. You'll find there many details regarding both aircraft, thus allowing you to discover how the MD-11 is different from its older brother.

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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:42 am

Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 2):
How about you visit the following two pages. You'll find there many details regarding both aircraft, thus allowing you to discover how the MD-11 is different from its older brother.

One thing these pages don't mention is the MD-11's smaller horizontal stabilizer, designed to save fuel. Some pilots have said this makes the MD-11 a little touchy to maneuver at certain speeds.
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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:56 am

The MD-11 also had two engine options from the start (GE and PW). The DC-10 only offered the GE CF6 engine for the Series 10 (CF6-6), Series 15 (downrated CF6-50) and Series 30 (CF6-50), and Pratt & Whitney JT9D engines for the Series 40. On the MD-11, the MD-11, in any variant, was available with GE CF6-80 engines or with Pratt & Whitney PW4400 Series engines. There was also a plan to make a Rolls Royce Trent 700 powered MD-11. There was a customer for that aircraft, Air Europe, but eventually the RR model never happened.

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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:59 am

In addition to the glass cockpit, engine options, and winglets, the MD-11 was a little over 20 ft longer than the DC-10 allowing for 30 more passengers to be carried.

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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:22 pm

Quoting Phatty3374 (Reply 5):
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Before I forget, there is a conversion programme for DC-10s which gives an avionics upgrade to a Douglas EFIS flightdeck like on the MD-11 and reducing the flight crew from 3 to 2. It's called the Boeing MD-10 programme.

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So far, FX is the only airline operating these MD-10s. It gives them a great advantage, allows pilots to acquire a common type rating for both DC-10s with MD-10 conversion and MD-11s, reducing training costs. However I guess other airlines didn't go for it because of either Union issues (the reduction of the flightcrew from 3 to 2 to be exact) or because it's simply too expensive.
 
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RE: MD-11 VS DC-10

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:25 pm

How about the MD 10 ? In how far is it different to fly than the MD 11 ? Any Fedex pilots here ?
Also why did no other Cargo carriers rebuild their Dc 10s into Md 10s ? Are the costs so high that there are no real benefits from it ?
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