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World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:05 am

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A huge improvement!
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Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:10 am

If that's true, I like it!
 
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Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:11 am

Kinda reminds me of a UPS/Fed Ex inspired job.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:13 am

Hm... looks like a Thai MD-11!
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Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:27 am

Not too bad looking, although I'd rather see this hybrid become their new livery:


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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:30 am

It's true employees voted for it and this one won by about 60 votes. The runner up was the retro red which was my first choice. I liked them both so I'm happy this one was the winner.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:38 am

I think it's really sharp. As was mentioned, it looks like the FedEx livery although I also notice a resemblance to Atlas Air as well...okay, maybe not.

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:48 am

I for one HATE it.

World would be better to stay with an all white fleet, rather than go to this!
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:53 am

its not great, but its not aweful. Ill have to wait to finally see one at BWI. Im sure, as is in most cases, the new colors will look different in person.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:56 am

Why do i see LAN as soon as i see that livery.

Nice though it is
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:02 am

Quoting FI642 (Reply 7):
World would be better to stay with an all white fleet, rather than go to this!

"Hey! What's that mothballed MD-11 doing over there?"

"It's not mothballed...it belongs to World Airways."

I think THAT is what's wrong with an all-white fleet. I like the new livery and hope someone--anyone--clicks a picture when one of them comes through Bangor, Maine on a troop charter...as they do several times each week.

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Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:04 am

Looks like a recolored UPS livery to me...


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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:07 am

Who designed it? I think it looks good if you ask me. Looks like a TG livery.

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:11 am

Quoting Jogales (Reply 11):
Looks like a recolored UPS livery to me...

Agreed, but it beats the current livery hands down.

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:32 am

So WO is interested to spend more money with a/c painting...  thumbsdown 
the current all-white livery is a better alternative for sure!
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:43 am

Retro red would have been better.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:47 am

Do you have pictures of all the voted-on liveries?

It may be interesting to see...
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:29 am

Will DL be doing the paint job for World or did DL just paint the retro job for World because it was an retired DL MD. I sort of like the all white but this is a very nice improvement.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:53 am

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My first choice

I think the other choice was the same as the current which is really just a white plane with the logo slapped on.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:02 pm

I dont see what the point is for an ACMI carrier to really spend much money designing logo's nor painting planes in anything more than the most basic paint job.

The plain white worked fine for World in my opinion and allowed for the incorporation of customer logo's as needed or total removal of any signage whatsoever easily if required.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting Jogales (Reply 11):
Looks like a recolored UPS livery to me...

Exactly what I was thinking, though I also agree that TG's current colourscheme looks a lot like the new colours from 5X.

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Personally it looks OK I guess but I prefer WO's 70's colours with the polished belly and the meatball.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:17 pm

Might be better than white but not by much. Weak type, weak colours, weak logo...
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:51 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 20):
I dont see what the point is for an ACMI carrier to really spend much money designing logo's nor painting planes in anything more than the most basic paint job.

1. they have to be painted eventually anyways
2. they found that employee moral was boosted by the retro paint job.
3. I belive the design was done in house by salaried employees
4. We've had 13 consecutive profitable quarters and last year was our most profitable yet so we have plenty to cover the minimal cost.
5. We are trying to expand our customer base beyond military flying more memorable look may help generate some business and build our corporate identity.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:53 pm

I guess this style is the current trend...but does everybody have to jump on the bandwagon? Where are the non-conformers? :P
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:59 pm

It kind of resembles Aeromexico's new livery except with a red stripe rather than a blue one.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:42 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 20):
The plain white worked fine for World in my opinion and allowed for the incorporation of customer logo's as needed or total removal of any signage whatsoever easily if required.

This is probably why the front of the a/c will still be white.

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 23):

All excellent reasons. A very nice list. Thanks.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:21 pm

It looks like UPS and USAirways had a baby together...lol.

I am not a fan...but their last logo was cooler, I think
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:01 am

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 1):
If that's true, I like it!

i agree

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 3):
looks like a Thai MD-11!

i agree also
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:02 am

i think they need something better.
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Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:41 am

Dont like it at all

the retro colors would have been way better
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:05 am

Quoting United319 (Reply 30):
the retro colors would have been way better

I'll second that!
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:15 am

Oh, great!!! 15/20 years ago, the blue belly was in fashion, BA,CP,UA,RG,etc.
Then, white top, grey belly, was in vogue, LH,SR,AR,MX.

And now, this "wave" in the back, like AM,TG,LA,UPS and others...


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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:17 am

This style of livery is getting very boring and over used. Where are the creative people sleeping?
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:17 am

A couple of points:

(1) The employees voted, which I think is a great way to do it. Whether I personally would rather have had the retro livery is irrelevant. I think that it's wonderful that management put it to the employees and they got their pick.

(2) For all the bitching on here about lack of creativity, I offer you this: THIS WAS DONE IN-HOUSE. Think about that for a minute. They came up with a livery that suits them fine, that their employees like, at almost no cost. Other airlines have spent scads of money for some pretty lame designs. (Years ago, NBC spent millions on creation and focus-group testing of a new logo, the angular N that briefly replaced the peacock. When they rolled it out, they very quickly got a call from Nebraska Public Television. Turns out that a couple of years earlier, someone in the Nebraska Public Television design department had created a new logo for them, which they were using and...uh...had copyrighted. It was exactly -- I mean exactly -- the same logo. NBC paid them a bunch of money for the copyright, and Nebraska switched to a similar, lower-case N. The media at the time did some funny stuff on how much it cost the Nebraska folks versus NBC for the same logo. Like 5 hours of their graphic artist to try a couple of designs, 78 cents worth of paper, 40 cents worth of ink, etc.

In any event, that WOA was able to come up with this in-house, and have some fun with it with their employees, and still has "white space" on which to slap client logos, all works well. Also, using red, white and blue ties in well with sister company NAA, which, frankly, has a lovely livery.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:55 am

Quoting USADreamliner (Reply 32):
And now, this "wave" in the back, like AM,TG,LA,UPS and others...

Yes, this does seem to be the trend - lots of people jumping on the bandwagon. That's why it was nice to see UA & US do something different with their new liveries. While some can debate whether they are good or not, at least they stand out from the crowd.
By the way, I still think this new World livery is an improvement over the all white.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:14 am

I don't like it.I would go with the retro red but my dad worked for them for 20 years so we both like the old paint job with the red and gold the best. airplane 
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:29 am

The old all white livery was introduced in the early 90's because World flew a tremendous number of HAJ flights for different countries. These included Garuda, MAS and Air Asia. By using the current paint scheme, all they had to do was to slap a new decal displaying the carrier they were flying for and be done with it. More than once though an aircraft would show up over in the Far East with most of the decal having been blown off. They also flew quite a few ops for scheduled carriers such as MAS, MASKargo, PAL, El Al and Aer Lingus. The aircraft for El Al and Aer Lingus were painted in those carriers livery, but the others remained white with decals applied over the "World". In fact N272WA was painted dark green and wore full Aer Lingus livery until its' final flight for that airline. Rather than repaint it back to the World white, it was left in the green livery with World decals over the former Aer Lingus livery. This worked fine until the U.S. started sending troop movements to the Mid East via SNN and the locals questioned why an "Aer Lingus" aircraft was being used to support a war. Caused quite an uproar, so much that we repainted it back to the all white livery.

There was a movement for the past several years, particularly from the pilot group to go back to the boomerang livery, but it was always rejected until they finally gave in with N803. The main reason for that change was to commemorate the last flight out of Saigon, not that management had a sudden change of heart. It was purely for the P.R.

I agree with Bill that the red, white and blue is a great idea as most of World's revenue comes from AMC. I also have always felt that NAA had one of the nicest liveries in the air.

The fact that World had 13 consecutive profitable quarters is a tribute to all the folks that work there. BUT, that string will come to an end in the second quarter of this year. With AMC slowly dismantling its' Fixed Buy awards, a huge amount of revenue will be forever lost. That, coupled with the fact that the MD-11 is fast becoming a "dinosaur" in the passenger aircraft category will put some severe constraints on World being able to continue the stellar performance they have had over the past several years. A few football charters and a short State Farm program don't really support the need for an aircraft of that size, which is one reason you see most of the "new" flying being awarded to NAA. Having said that, World is 58 years old and has always managed to come through even during the toughest of times. They have some of the most talented individuals I have had the opportunity to work with and I'd love to see them continue on for another 58 years.

Best of luck World,

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting PillowTester (Reply 33):
This style of livery is getting very boring and over used. Where are the creative people sleeping?

Yeah, gotta agree with this. And what's with the outright biting of UPS and Thai?

It's not bad, but I'm sure a.nutters could have come up with something better.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:04 am

Quoting United319 (Reply 30):
Dont like it at all

the retro colors would have been way better

Having an entire retro fleet would have diluted the effect of a/c 803....which is special plane with the company's employees. I have a feeling this is how alot of them felt when deciding on the new livery.

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:05 am

looks sort of like the US new colors.
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:23 am

If it is true. I like this new color. Anything is better then the current one.

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 3):
Hm... looks like a Thai MD-11!

Yeah I noticed that as well. Copycats  Wink
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:11 am

Quoting INTENSS (Reply 39):
Having an entire retro fleet would have diluted the effect of a/c 803....

 checkmark  I totaly agree with you.

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 41):
Anything is better then the current one.

 thumbsup  You're so right!

Well, in fact the then new color scheme was introduced at the beginning of the 1990s (1992 or 1993) when another new look was over (to my taste) simplified. The new look WO introduced in 1992 was great for me, and I hoped it would live longer than it finally did. Strangely, you can find some trace of it in the drawing at the top of this thread, but in an inverted way and with some red added.


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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:30 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 2):
Kinda reminds me of a UPS/Fed Ex inspired job.

I had the same thought. But I admit that I like the scheme a lot.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:42 am

The main reason for that change was to commemorate the last flight out of Saigon, not that management had a sudden change of heart.

Correction, should have been Da Nang. It was Pan Am that had the last flight out of Saigon.

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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:00 am

Ed, thanks for all the info you post on World,they are very insightful and enjoyable. When the AMC flights started to kick into high gear at BWI about 7 years ago i was "unfortunately" on the front lines trying to download 1200 bulk bags in one hour.Then in the middle of the week moving full and empty cans around on the DC-10 CHS-BWI-FRF run.Everybody that i encountered were very professional from inside and out,the station managers were also very good in keeping everything in order. A toast to you and your airline.And the new livery is growing on me i can't wait to see it. I still have a preference for the boomerang though.
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:41 am

While we are on the subject of World. When did World sell their hangar in OAK to United?
 
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting Ramprat74 (Reply 47):
While we are on the subject of World. When did World sell their hangar in OAK to United?

It was vacant for a few years, but I think UAL moved in in 1987 a few years after WO moved it's HQ to then-Herndon,VA
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RE: World Airways Decides On A New Livery

Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:57 am

They should seriously get a new logo and a new font as well. Looks like something from the 80s

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