UN_B732
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B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:57 am

Hi Folks:
I had a search into expertflyer.com for BTV-JFK flights & fares, image my surprise when I was able to get a list of BTV-JFK fares

R14 B6 R One-Way 64.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
V14 B6 V One-Way 79.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
L14 B6 L One-Way 89.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
B7 B6 B One-Way 99.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
Q7 B6 Q One-Way 109.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
H3 B6 H One-Way 124.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
K B6 K One-Way 139.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing
Y B6 Y One-Way 159.00 (USD) View Rules View Routing

in addition to bucket availability on a random date (november 12)

0 Connections
B6 19 0 BTV
11/12/06 06:00AM JFK
11/12/06 07:20AM 320 Y4 K4 H4 Q4 B4 L4 V4 R0 M0
0 Connections
B6 51 0 BTV
11/12/06 11:10AM JFK
11/12/06 12:25PM 320 Y4 K4 H4 Q4 B4 L4 V4 R0 M0
0 Connections
B6 55 0 BTV
11/12/06 05:05PM JFK
11/12/06 06:20PM 320 Y4 K4 H4 Q4 B4 L4 V0 R0 M0
0 Connections
B6 147 0 BTV
11/12/06 06:45PM JFK
11/12/06 08:05PM 320 Y4 K4 H4 Q4 B4 L4 V0 R0 M0

What's going on here, is B6 publishing into the CRS?

-Mr. X

PS: I will be happy to bring up fare lists from other markets.
What now?
 
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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:04 am

Quoting UN_B732 (Thread starter):
What's going on here, is B6 publishing into the CRS?

Yes, there was a thread about this a couple of weeks ago, IIRC
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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:22 am

Yep. There's also a press release about it. They determined that they needed to avail themselves of some other sales channels, even if those channels were more expensive to use. One target client is the business traveler and they believe that they'll do better with some level of connectivity to the GDS systems.

One question that hasn't been discussed is whether this makes it important for B6 to go over to NewSkies from OpenSkies. Apparently, NewSkies has improved capabilities to interface with GDS systems, and some money-saving ways to do so, even if I don't understand the particulars. AirTran plainly had some horrific issues during their cutover of their reservations module to New Skies, but after the first day disaster it appears to be working swimmingly. B6 has reportedly been testing New Skies, but it seemed last month, at least, that implementation was far, far off.

Airtran always used to have a little bug at the bottom of their web site that said "Powered by Open Skies" which was then changed to "Powered by New Skies". B6 just says "copyright Navitaire", which is the manufacturer, so we don't and maybe won't know if they make the switch. But I was curious.
 
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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:34 am

Wow - didn't know about the old thread. Thanks for the heads up. I wonder if online agencies will now start selling jetBlue
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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:28 am

I have been looking, but I cannot find B6 in Orbitz or Expedia. Does anyone know when they will be loaded into those systems?
 
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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:23 am

I have been told that JetBlue's switchover to New Skies will be 11/1.

We'll see!

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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sun Sep 03, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting InTheSky74 (Reply 5):
I have been told that JetBlue's switchover to New Skies will be 11/1.

Why so long? Do they have to work all the details or can airlines only switch over after a certain period. Seems kind of far off to start being listed if they were into the planning process by late August.

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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:14 pm

I believe that they are already listed in some Travelocity pages. I think you have to do a vacation package to get them as a choice though - not just an airfare search.

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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:35 am

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 6):
Why so long? Do they have to work all the details or can airlines only switch over after a certain period.

I didn't mean to confuse people. There are two issues here:

(1) Issue 1: B6 connects to GDS systems. They can do that at their leisure, and may do so now. Open Skies, their current reservations platform (in which Neeleman was involved in development many moons ago), can support traditional connectivity to the Big 4 GDS systems.

(2) Issue 2: Switching to New Skies, which is what may happen in November. New Skies is a new-from-the-ground-up, Windows .Net-based res system from Navitaire that has a lot more bells and whistles and capabilities than Open Skies, but is still intended as a low-cost, non-traditional hosted system. [You'd be amazed at how an evolutionary system like DeltaMatic has layer upon layer and protocol atop protocol as systems and computer capabilities evolved from the punch-cards of Deltamatic's initial era.] One thing that New Skies has is more inexpensive ways to connect to GDS's, so you can choose how you want to connect to them and how much you want to pay, as well as some travel-agent and business-folks login capabilities that bypass the GDS. It also has some "true ticketless" capabilities, which bypass even the E-Ticket protocols. It just seemed to me that if B6 was going to add some new distribution channels, it would want to do so in the absolutely most efficient way possible, and it seemed like New Skies offered some of that -- even though it itself is probably more expensive than Open Skies and has had some teething problems when implemented at Airtran.

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RE: B6 Publishing Into CRS?! (expertflyer)

Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:48 am

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 8):
(1) Issue 1: B6 connects to GDS systems. They can do that at their leisure, and may do so now. Open Skies, their current reservations platform (in which Neeleman was involved in development many moons ago), can support traditional connectivity to the Big 4 GDS systems.

Traditional connectivity = AIRIMP TTY - doesn't get much more traditional ! Open Skies was supposed to implement Interactive Sell a few years back, for Meridiana, but it never happened (hence Meridiana stayed on ARCO).

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 8):
You'd be amazed at how an evolutionary system like DeltaMatic has layer upon layer and protocol atop protocol as systems and computer capabilities evolved from the punch-cards of Deltamatic's initial era.]

That's for sure - around some of the older dinosaur systems, there's some seriously old spaghetti lurking in the background.
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