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Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:05 am

3 weeks ago when this whole liquid ban started, some airline official was quoted as saying that due to the restrictions they were going to keep more drinks on the plane. So has that happened? Are airlines serving more drinks in the wake of the liquid ban?
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aa757first
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:08 am

I flew CO to LIM three weeks ago, and back to EWR last week. As far as I can tell, no. I remember more drink service on CO EWR-SXM-EWR, even though the flight to LIM is about two and a half hours more.

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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:11 am

I have flown five times since the ban, including the day of, and on every flight (all on AA) they gave me the whole can rather than just a cup, which AA usually didn't do in the past.
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:11 am

Have read of flights running out of bottled water, and reverting to the plane's own supply. Article...wish I could get a link for you..said that most FA's won't touch the stuff. Is that the case??
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:23 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
they gave me the whole can rather than just a cup

Same thing I experienced with Continental when I flew EWR-SJU-EWR on the 17th and 22nd of August.
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:31 am

AC has beefed up the amount of bottled water carried, but recent events haven't really changed our service routine. Pre-dinner bar services on applicable routes. Full cans available on request, juice/H20 offered every 20-30 minutes. As far as reverting to the aircraft supply of water upon bottle depletion, what do you think coffee and tea are brewed from?? Haven't lost anybody yet.
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:32 am

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 3):
Article...wish I could get a link for you..said that most FA's won't touch the stuff. Is that the case??

There's been several studies about the quality of potable water stored onboard a/c. Let's just say quite a few of the potable water tanks that were tested had all sorts of nasty things in them. I remember when I worked @ FL, our potable water trucks were little trucks with a tank on the back and a pump in what used to the be the passenger seat. Those trucks would sometimes sit out in the sun for several days and the insides of those tanks would get slimy. The quality of the potable water is one of the reasons why inflight coffee tastes so bad (that's a topic for another thread), as the majority coffee makers onboard a/c are attached to the potable water line (in the case of many regional a/c, the coffee is not brewed onboard, but is stored in a carafe that is refilled at a catering station), but some do have a pour over option and in that case, bottle water might be used.
 
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:34 am

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 3):
Article...wish I could get a link for you..said that most FA's won't touch the stuff. Is that the case??

Yes. Most airlines tell the flight attendants never to drink/serve that water.

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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:28 am

I havent noticed an increase in drink service. But my longest leg is a little over an hour, so I couldnt say any on the long flights. (where Id personally carry on Dr. Pepper.....I wish airlines would stock this!!!)


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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:25 am

Best thing is to take an empty water bottle on board and ask them right at the door if they can fill it up a bit. Have tried this a couple of times this summer and the FA's have always been more than happy to. Especially since on a AC flight recently from YYC>YHZ it took them 1.5 hours to get the beverage service going after takeoff.
 
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:40 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 6):
There's been several studies about the quality of potable water stored onboard a/c

Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, I don't think I would ever drink water from an aircraft's potable water supply or coffee that was brewed on the aircraft*

As an aside, IIRC I read recently (either in the WSJ or USA Today) that aircraft are considered "public water supplies" for the US EPA's purposes

...pause...Googles...here it is:
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/airlinewater/questions.html

Highlights...
17.2% of the sampled aircraft tested positive for the presence coliform bacteria in the water

"Passengers with suppressed immune systems or others concerned should request bottled or canned beverages while on the aircraft and refrain from drinking tea or coffee that does not use bottled water. While boiling water for one minute will remove pathogens from drinking water, the water used to prepare coffee and tea aboard a plane is not generally brought to a sufficiently high temperature to guarantee that pathogens are killed."



* Not that I drink coffee anyway... The closest I'll get is a tall upside-down six pump caramel macchiato from Starbucks, and that's just when I'm being social. I like my caffiene cold.
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:00 pm

Quoting TPAnx (Reply 3):
Have read of flights running out of bottled water, and reverting to the plane's own supply. Article...wish I could get a link for you..said that most FA's won't touch the stuff. Is that the case??



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 10):
Highlights...
17.2% of the sampled aircraft tested positive for the presence coliform bacteria in the water

There have been numerous articles on this subject which led me to start bringing my own water supply on board with me; 2x 1-liter bottles usually does the trick. I'm crazy when it comes to staying hydrated in part because I usually have to take at least one semi-longhaul (I live in Hawaii) to get anywhere and also enjoy a drink or two while onboard (diuretics = need for more water to stay hydrated). Fortunately, I haven't had to endure anything more than a 20-minute interisland hop since the terror-tots' latest attempt to try to murder some people. That will change, however, this week as the Mrs. and I fly to Chicago for a wedding. The outbound leg stops in SFO (yes!) which will give us time to recharge as I'm assuming that the ban won't be lifted and I'm not expecting to be served enough water. The return leg, however, is on UA1 - a 9 hour nonstop that I'm beginning to dread already.

I'm well aware that carrying additional bottled water costs money as it does weigh a lot but I'm at the point where I would actually pay to at least have it available. That would mean, however, that the water would then become some sort of "secure" item to ensure that terror-turds didn't mess with it en route to the aircraft.

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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting 777fan (Reply 11):
The return leg, however, is on UA1 - a 9 hour nonstop that I'm beginning to dread already.

Not that I've ever tried it myself, but you may want to call United reservations, explain your situation, and request that an SSR (Supplimental Service Request) be added to your PNR for extra/bottled water.

This way you at least have a better chance of it being available on-board for you (make sure you do it at least 48 hours before flight time and call to reconfirm it as the flight approaches...and it's always on a "best efforts" basis).

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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:26 pm

Based on my flights yesterday- No.
 
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:07 pm

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 12):
Not that I've ever tried it myself, but you may want to call United reservations, explain your situation, and request that an SSR (Supplimental Service Request) be added to your PNR for extra/bottled water.

Cool. It's really not that big of a deal - more of a preference based on years of long haul travel, followed by feeling like s**t as a result of being dehydrated from a 12+ hour flight!

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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:18 pm

Based on my AA flights over the past couple weeks, no.. I do get a whole can though! lol, but no added frequency of the cart roling up and down the aisle...
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:34 pm

Our Aeroflot flight from SVO to LAX ran out of bottled water and juices half way through the flight Saturday. 6 hours of flying with no water! So the answer to the question is NO!
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 10):
I don't think I would ever drink water from an aircraft's potable water supply

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I design commercial aircraft potable water systems and I would NEVER drink the liquid from one.

That said, it probably would do you no harm noticable to do so 99 percent of the time. It would be just my luck to be the one percent guy.

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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:03 am

United Asia's network should be serving more water, as it has put more on board, both bottled and potable...but then again, it's always at the mercy of our FAs whether the passengers do indeed receive it.

I would expect other carriers to and from Asia would do the same.
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:42 am

I must be missing something in this thread. Why would the liquid ban change the entire face of In-Flight Service offered?? It suggests that every boarding customer brings on their own liquids be it bottled water or whatever to stay hydrated in flight. In fact, only a conservative percentage of customers board with their own supplies, as evidenced by the refuse we pick up or what is left behind at the end of a flight. As previously stated, at AC we adhere to certain service standards based on the routing, and regularly monitor the cabin with beverages. So what's the big deal??
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:54 am

Is first class tea and coffee made from mineral water? I would hope it was.
 
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RE: Has The Liquid Ban=more Drink Service?

Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:02 am

Since the ban, flown TPA-ATL-IND-CVG-TPA, MCO-ATL-DCA-ATL-MCO, and MCO-JFK-MCO. No change on DL as far as drink service goes except that on one flight a nice F/A saw my badge and offered me as much of whatever I wanted. I got like a can of coke and like 2 bottles of water to go along with my biscoff cookies and two bags of chips. Haha.  smile 

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