|Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 34):
1. People over there actually pay good money for a ticket, unlike here.
2. This isn't Asia, we have a hell of a lot more competition, too much thus is why US airlines standards are lower then that of Asian, once Asia gets all wrapped up by LCC's and several airlines, expect all that to slowly get phased out.
3. They have about twice as many FA's per flight then what most US carriers do. Happens when people don't want to pay anymore then $25-$99 for a RT ticket, you can't afford to pay all the people.
We don't pay?? You're drinking too much legacy kool-aid. Fares are often LOWER in Europe than here and in Asia some routes are astonishingly cheap. Try BKK
full J is $850 r/t. They fly 'real' aircraft on those routes too. They also have real competition. It's not just CX
on that route.
is a cheap market you say? NRT
is $1800 r/t in J from HKG
. Even ex-NRT
it's $2120 to HKG
is also a high priced market. Contrast that with $3,600 in J for JFK
. How 'bout MEX
? On AA
, full J is $5629. Full F is $8499. Exchange rate differences can't explain a $3-5,000 difference (depending on route and class) between connecting from MEX
and taking the exact same flights
ex-us. Fact is, the US is one of the HIGHEST premium fare markets in the world. Even London offers more bargains than we do. Want to open your eyes wide? Price GRU
in J on AA
. Put a US stopver in, then reprice it.
But back on topic: We're talking about NW
's food service in F, not Y. Except for a VERY small population, you have businesspeople and/or farepayers in F. How else would one get the wide chair? You don't make Elite status on $25-$99 once a year flying, nor do you earn enough miles to take a reward flight in F very quickly. Then, even among elites the upgrade systems prefer higher fare classes within elite tiers. Your argument just doesn't hold water.
US airlines are inefficient. Their cost structures are inefficient. They had problems before 9/11 and before $70 oil. Don't blame the pax for this BS
, blame mismanagement. Blame corporate contracts (that the airlines signed) that offer 50% discounts, requiring full fares to be pushed through the roof so that they aren't giving away the farm completely. Blame the majors for wal-martizing, dropping their drawers, and matching fares. They created the expectation of supra-cheap fares. Here's a hint: LCCs cannot and never will be able to replace legacy carriers. Thus, no need to price accordingly.
[Edited 2006-09-07 23:42:19]