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What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:01 am

Does anyone know what livery the new B-747-LCFs will be painted in? Will it be Boeing's Livery, or EVA's?
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:11 am

The last information I heard is that it's "still under negotiation".

It certainly will not be EVA's -- EVA is only building the thing, not operating it. It will be operated by Evergreen Airlines (the US cargo airline, not related to EVA).

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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:00 pm

So, it can either be painted all white, in Boeing colors, or Evergreen colors.
 
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:50 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
in Boeing colors, or Evergreen colors.

Or a combination of both.
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:46 pm

Maybe dreamliner scheme with the EVA tail? That would be best. I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop. Someone use the side profile of the plane and do some schemes. id like to see.
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:06 pm

My guess is a Dreamliner fuselage with Evergreen fin.
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:11 pm

Someone previously suggested painting three rows of fake windows.  Smile
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:25 pm

Whens the test flight due.
Any pics on the operating Aft section.
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Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:37 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 6):
Someone previously suggested painting three rows of fake windows. Smile

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Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:11 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Any pics on the operating Aft section.

There is a computer generated image in this document:

http://www.boeing.com/news/frontiers/i_ca01.pdf
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:47 pm

Well what ever it may be. I doubt that Boeing will just paint it white, and miss out on the chance of a flying Billboard.

I say paint it like a GIANT can of Red Bull.  bouncy 
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:50 pm

I think it will get the typical French design... white  Smile
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:01 pm

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 11):
I think it will get the typical French design... white

No no, the plane will have a large picture of Quasimodo from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame". Ugly with a big hunch, but essential for the story we're seeing and the result will be much beauty... when the 787 takes off.  Smile

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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:58 am

How about a painting of a spear through a whale (jet)?  duck 

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Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:04 pm

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 4):
I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop.

If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?
 
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:12 pm

Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 14):
If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?

Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:13 pm

I'd be very surprised to see anything fancy given that it's a freighter. My guess is that it'll have minimal Boeing markings and not much else.
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:57 pm

Does anyone know if the WeinerJet has made its flight debut? I have not seen or heard anything about that, so I was wondering what is going on....
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:04 pm

It would be neat if they painted an actual size picture of a 787 on each side to represent what the 747LCF carries inside. Then they should print somewhere on the fuselage "787 Dreamliner On Board".
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:47 pm

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 4):
I cant see just 3 of these being enough. Theyd be in the air non-stop.

IIRC, it was mentioned in an old thread that eventually, six airframes would be converted.
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Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:40 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment?

90 sections per month, optimistically assuming 1 per day per aircraft. That would be 30 fuselages per month, very optimistically.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month.

How do you calculate that?

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
(I know they are planning something like 30 per month).

30 B787s per month? That sounds very high to me. I don't think Boeing can sell 30 B787s per month.
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:24 pm

Quoting Lredlefsen (Reply 14):
If each plane can make 1 round trip per day, aren't we talking about 3 fuselages per day, or 90 per month? I didn't think the 787 line(s) were going to crank out quite that many planes...?



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787. If that is their goal, theoreticly, they could build 120 airplanes per month (I know they are planning something like 30 per month).

Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day! if that was even a possibility, Boeing would be offering airlines more slots for 2009-2010.. because at that rate, it would take them just over a year to make and deliver all the planes on order after the production starts... however, we know that there are very little slots open until 2010, and I believe 2012 is when they have really open slots, so your ideas of 30 or more planes a month are absurd.... Boeing cannot do it.... There's a thread going on that says how Boeing is concerned about weight, not production rate (maybe that shows the plane isn't exactly where it should be, and Boeing wants to say they won't produce planes too fast to make sure their plane fits their specifications and maybe they are foreseeing a chance of having major delays later on, like with the A380 program.... and Boeing will face simliar critisim and will have to work compensations just like Airbus... The only problem is that Boeing has over 400 orders, while Airbus has just 159... so if delays happen to the 787 program, Boeing's problems will affect a lot more customers.... that's why Boeing has started to hint at "weight, not rate")
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:39 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 15):
Wouldn't that be 90 sections per month, or are we talking about an entire fuselage per shipment? I also thought Boeing was gearing up to a 3 day assembly for each B-787.



Quoting Atnight (Reply 21):
Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day!

Don't forget, the 74LCF will also be carrying the wings to Everett as well. It won't be just fuselage sections.
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting PlanenutzTB (Reply 18):
It would be neat if they painted an actual size picture of a 787 on each side to represent what the 747LCF carries inside. Then they should print somewhere on the fuselage "787 Dreamliner On Board".

I agree completely, that would be an awesome concept. An "intel inside" for airliners. Big grin
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:28 am

Quoting Zarniwoop (Reply 9):
There is a computer generated image in this document:

 hissyfit   hissyfit  I want the real thing, not a computer generated image.  Wink

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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:22 pm

Quoting Atnight (Reply 21):
Guys, where do you get the idea that Boeing will make 30 a month (or even more as some suggest?) that's an entire plane a day!

That was exactly my point!

Someone said "is 3 LCFs enough?"

I said "3 LCFs lets you transport as many as 30 fuselages a month", but forgot to say "that is waaay more than Boeing needs."  Smile

Remember that these things will have to go in for maintenance, etc. once in a while, too. And, as others have pointed out, Boeing is ultimately targeting 6 LCFs, but LCFs transport not only fuselages, but also wings.

So it sounds like 3 is enough, and 6 will be plenty.
 
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RE: What Livery Will Be On The B-747-LCF

Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:34 pm

Now u see why i asked finally. lol.
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