tommybp251b
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Landing/Take Off Direction In BUD

Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:25 pm

Hi Everybody!

There is thing with BUD which is little strange for me. I got a new flat before summer which is lets say one or two miles away from the ILS path of runway 13R right at that point were they pull down the landing gear. Before summer nearly everyday landing runway was 13R and take off was probably 13 L then. That was bye the End of June.
I just came back to Budapest 3 weeks ago and since then the planes used runway 31L/R for take off. Is it because of the winds? Or is it due to noise not allowed anymore to fly so deeply over the city? I just saw few planes landing on 13L, lets say at least 10 during the last 3 weeks.

Any helps with that?


Regards Tom
Tom from Cologne
 
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RE: Landing/Take Off Direction In BUD

Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:57 am

I've never been to BUD and don't know too much about the location of the airport versus residential districts. Nevertheless, if there is a residential district on one side of the airport and forests or whatever on the other, then usually the navigation procedures are designed so that aircraft would fly over the forest part whenever possible.

For example, here in TLL we have a single runway, with 26 pointing towards the city and 08 towards woods and some small settlements. Now landing traffic uses 26 I'd say around 75% of the time, because the landing path goes over the woods. For takeoffs, it's the opposite - most of the time they take off from 08 to fly over the woods again.

Of course there are exeptions, as wind conditions sometimes leave no choice, but I've sometimes seen some ATRs taking off even with a moderate tailwind.

As I said, I'm not familiar with BUD, but maybe this might be an explanation?

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RE: Landing/Take Off Direction In BUD

Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:37 am

hey Tom,

rwy 13R/31L was closed for a few months to add a high speed taxiway, 13R is the older runway at BUD and most aircraft landing on 13R had to roll to the end of the runway and exit in taxiway alpha 2. The new taxiway, which is after Bravo 2 will allow greater use of that runway.

Wind direction, as Im sure you know is the deciding factor as to which runway is active. I know there have been a lot of noise complaints due to the increased traffic at BUD, so I think BAA is implementing tighter noise restriction procedures.

I love how some malev pilots do the 31R approach, they go directly to the VOR and make a sharp turn while decending on the glide path, only coming in-line with the runway at a few hundred feet AGL.

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RE: Landing/Take Off Direction In BUD

Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:36 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 2):
I love how some malev pilots do the 31R approach, they go directly to the VOR and make a sharp turn while decending on the glide path, only coming in-line with the runway at a few hundred feet AGL.

Oh yeah.... I experienced that landing! Very very spectacular. Seven years ago, but vivid memories still! I thought the 732's wing tip was going to hit the ground.
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RE: Landing/Take Off Direction In BUD

Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:55 pm

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 2):
I love how some malev pilots do the 31R approach, they go directly to the VOR and make a sharp turn while decending on the glide path, only coming in-line with the runway at a few hundred feet AGL.

I did it once on a Fokker-100 from AB.

Thanks for your help
Tom from Cologne