worldsurfer
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Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:48 am

I recently flew on a TN A340-300 and i was surprised to see that
the PTVs had a constant video feed from the time we got on the plane in LAX until we arrived at PPT from somewhere in the front of the plane.
It was pretty cool to see the tug , taxiing to the runway and then takeoff roll and landing approach. The only thing i would add is cockpit audio similar to UA's "Channel 9"

Is this done by other A340 operators like AF, LH or SQ ???
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:02 am

I've seen it on SAA 346s and EK 330s, you could select between tail cam, taxi cam and downward facing cam.
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:54 am

I was on an SAS A330 that showed taxi, flight and landing, but was off on takeoff. That was in 2004.
 
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:56 am

JAL showed this on 773 flights YVR-NRT

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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:44 am

Usually you can choose to watch the camera channel on the PTVs on SK widebody airplanes from the moment you get in your seat till the moment you dissembark.

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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:04 am

Quoting Worldsurfer (Thread starter):
Is this done by other A340 operators like AF, LH or SQ ???

That feature has been around for 30 years. It was reported that American 191 in ORD had it, and it was on when the plane crashed just after take off. The camera was over the Capts shoulder and the image projected on the movie screen. I was told by a long time AA employee that after the accident the cameras were turned off and never used again.

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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:33 pm

It was reported that American 191 in ORD had it, and it was on when the plane crashed just after take off. The camera was over the Capts shoulder and the image projected on the movie screen.

It's never been confirmed whether it was on or not. The NTSB report makes no mention of it that I recall, and it's their job to give the full status of an airplane at the time of an accident. The pilots made no mention of it on the CVR tape. As there were no survivors, there's nobody to say first-hand whether it was on. All anybody can do is assume it might have been, although as with United's Channel 9, I believe its use was always up to pilot's discretion.

As for today, I know both ANA and JAL use nosewheel cams on all taxis, takeoffs and landings. Personally, I really dislike it - especially as long as some of those transpacific takeoff rolls are. It can really look like you're headed for the trees! There's no way to get away from it either, short of just closing your eyes - it's on the big screens as well as all the PTV screens throughout the cabin.
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:44 pm

AF has cameras on A330 and I think also on the new B773. I flew once CDG-KIX on A330 and it was great on landing to see on the screen the airport island surrounded by water with the runway approaching. Unfortunately, a lot of captains forget to turn the system on for landing (or may be they voluntarily forget ?)
 
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:03 pm

DE has it (on the video screens in the cabin) on their B763s. Quite interesting to watch the taxi, take-off and landing.
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:05 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
DE has it (on the video screens in the cabin) on their B763s. Quite interesting to watch the taxi, take-off and landing.

...and its A320s
 
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:07 pm

Quoting MUCflieger (Reply 9):
...and its A320s

Sorry, I've only been on their B763s. Doesn't AB have it as well?
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:21 pm

Quoting Goldorak (Reply 7):
Unfortunately, a lot of captains forget to turn the system on for landing (or may be they voluntarily forget ?)

I disccussed that once with an AF FA. Initially it was turned on for landing, but some passengers were scared, so it is now normally off.
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:35 pm

Quoting TGV (Reply 11):
I disccussed that once with an AF FA. Initially it was turned on for landing, but some passengers were scared, so it is now normally off.

Hi TGV !
these so-called scared people should watch their feet during landing and not watch the screen !!! This will allow the 99.5% of non-scared people to watch end enjoy.
Anyway, thanks for the info !
 
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:56 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
...I was told by a long time AA employee that after the accident the cameras were turned off and never used again.

I use to fly AA DFW-MSY in the late 80's on the DC-10 and the camera was usually on for landing but don't ever remember it being on for take-off.
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:26 pm

They turned the camera on, on an SK 340 flight I was on. The quality was about that of an older webcam. It was the default display during taxi, take off, and landing. It could also be accessed during flight. There was a front, and a bottom view.

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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:25 am

Quoting Worldsurfer (Thread starter):
There's no way to get away from it either, short of just closing your eyes - it's on the big screens as well as all the PTV screens throughout the cabin.

On TN's flight it was only on the PTVs , and you had the option to change the channel at all times.
 
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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:02 am

I flew LAX>NRT and NRT>LAX many times back in the 80's with ANA on 747-200's and they showed as well take-off and landing on the main screen. JAL did not have this.

I flew in the late 70's CUR>JFK DC-10 (N116AA) and they showed this as well. I also know that the 747's of AA did not have camera's.

On Finnair A319's and A320 they show this as well

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RE: Video Feed During Taxi, Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:38 am

JL and NH currently offer this feature throughout their fleets.
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