greg3322
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Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:02 am

Has anyone here travelled with an infant since the new restrictions went into place? I have a 1 year old and a 3 year old. We are dreading the flights with the new carry-on restrictions.

Next week, we're traveling LAX-SEA-ANC on AS and then a week later, YVR-LAX on AC.

Is there any hassle with bringing diaper wipes or any other diaper supplies? The TSA web site isn't specific on these items.

Also, my kids drink almost nothing but milk - not formula. It appears we won't be able to bring milk at all. Anyone found any way around this? I have not had good luck getting milk on board the aircraft - either they don't carry it, ran out, or whatever. I have always purchased some before the flight and carried it on, but I guess that isn't going to happen!

Thanks,

Greg
 
ckfred
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:54 pm

Here are some thoughts as to trying to get around the restrictions.

You could trying putting bottles with milk in a small insulated bag or container. I've read the restrictions, and they say formula or breast milk. Frankly, I don't think a TSA screener is going to quesiton you as to whether you have cow's milk.

There's always trying to getting milk inside the secure zone and having your kids drink it before boarding, assuming that you are on a short flight. If you're flying a longer flight, though, you could be facing the problem of no milk after the first round of beverage service.

You could also call you airline and ask if the agent could put some short of notation for your flight that you will have small children would appreciate extra milk being put aboad by catering.

Finally, since you should be allowed to pre-board, speak with an F/A about either getting milk after takeoff, or at least having some set aside, so that you don't have to worry about the beverage cart being empty by the time it gets to you.

I do understand your concern. We usually carry water with us, when our 3-year old travels, since the beverage service always starts at the other end of the cabin. My wife is planning to ask the F/A, while I'm installing the car seat, if we could get some water as soon as the F/As start preparing for beverage service.
 
greg3322
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:03 pm

Ckfred,

Excellent! Those are some great ideas.

Thanks for the response.

Greg
 
eajpecrca
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:01 pm

In July I flew round trip PHL-SFO with my 2.5 year old granddaughter. Dealing with getting the car seat in place outbound in coach was a real hassle: narrow aisle, cramped seating, holding up boarding while I struggled with the contraption! In fact, she ended up in my lap the whole flight. F/A were sympathetic with not making her sit in the seat. No problem at that time with bringing juice on board, of course.

I was under the impression car seats were mandatory for children but on the return flight in first class I ditched the car seat and the child was in her own seat. She loved having her own place without having to sit on a car seat. It was a much more pleasant experience. But what are the rules regarding child restraint systems on aircraft? And are they typically enforced?

Just last week wife and I took grandbaby ACY-MYR. Short flight so it was tolerable not to have fluids, but child wanted juice shortly after boarding. Good suggestions above to make sure child gets attention as needed. Bumpy ride through Ernesto delayed cabin service, and of course we were among the last to get beverage service. On return flight FA started to insist that child sit in her own seat for takeoff, but child found grandmom's lap more secure. More experienced FA told first one to let it be.

Traveling with this child (8 flights now in 2 years) has generally been pleasant. She's a charmer and makes everyone around her feel good.
 
airbazar
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:37 pm

Quoting Eajpecrca (Reply 3):
I was under the impression car seats were mandatory

Car seats are not mandatory. In fact, I know at least one airline (BA) where they make you take a child (less than 2yo), from the car seat and hold her/him on your lap for take off and landings. However I'm not sure what the rule is for children above 2 yo as they are old enough to pay for their own seat. Personally I wouldn't want to hold a child older than 2 on my lap anyway  Smile
 
mjlhou
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:08 pm

You are allowed to take breast milk, and I agree with Ckfred in the fact that they probably won't question whether or not it's breast milk.

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 1):
You could also call you airline and ask if the agent could put some short of notation for your flight that you will have small children would appreciate extra milk being put aboad by catering.


This is a good idea and sometimes will work, however, you should just wait until you get to the airport to make your request as many times special requests get lost or un-noticed in your reservation (exception: special meals for meal flights). I hope all works out for you.

mjlhou
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COIAHLGW
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:28 am

Great timing for this question, I will be in a similar situation later this week with a CO flight from IAH to IAD, and then VS from IAD to LHR. I know it's a long shot, but does anybody know if the Britax Marathon car seat will fit in a standard Y seat?

Eajpecrca - what carrier did you have trouble with getting the car seat installed? I have an 18 month old, so she's just a little bit too small (possibly) to be strapped into the regular seat, and would be a wiggle-worm if she only had the lap belt.  Smile
 
SLCNate
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:35 am

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 1):

Sorry to be picky, can one carry hot water in an insulated container or do airline offer hot water on their flights (for mixing formula, etc.). For shorter flights, premixing is an option but for long haul, I would prefer carrying water and formula seperate. Any ideas will be appreciated.
 
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:14 am

Quoting SLCNate (Reply 7):
Sorry to be picky, can one carry hot water in an insulated container or do airline offer hot water on their flights (for mixing formula, etc.).

We always ask for hot water on the plane, even before these new rules. It's one less thing to carry on anyway.
 
eajpecrca
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:57 am

Quoting COIAHLGW (Reply 6):
Eajpecrca - what carrier did you have trouble with getting the car seat installed? I have an 18 month old, so she's just a little bit too small (possibly) to be strapped into the regular seat, and would be a wiggle-worm if she only had the lap belt.

US Airways on an A-321. The heavy car seat did fit into the plane's seat but it was a struggle hauling it, child who wanted to be held, and a carry-on on my back down that narrow aisle trying to avoid clobbering seated passengers with any one of the 3 items I was carrying. F/A came forward to help me with the car seat. It was probably a funny sight in retrospect but not at that moment.

As an aside, I'm impressed with Spirit Airlines new A319's for that ACY-MYR trip. Clean, bright, decent legroom. But the car seat we sent as luggage was damaged when others' suitcases were stacked on top of it by the baggage handlers in ACY! Aggravating!
 
SLCNate
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:58 am

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 8):
We always ask for hot water on the plane, even before these new rules. It's one less thing to carry on anyway.

Thanks. I was just wondering if baby's water is allowed thru' security if you demonstarte it is safe.
 
ckfred
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RE: Flying In The US And Canada With An Infant

Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:06 am

My understanding is that car seats aren't required for children on board an airplane, even though most states require children to be in an infant carrier/car seat/booster seat. The only requirement that I know is that a car seat has to be approved by the FAA for use in airplanes. The vast majority of car seats FAA approved and say so on the label on the side of the seat.

Considering that the car seat has to go anyway, because our son rides in his grandparents car, after we get to ATL, I bring the seat in the cabin.

Besides, if he didn't have a car seat, he would have a poor view out the window, since he would sit a good six inches lower.

Quoting SLCNate (Reply 7):
Sorry to be picky, can one carry hot water in an insulated container or do airline offer hot water on their flights (for mixing formula, etc.). For shorter flights, premixing is an option but for long haul, I would prefer carrying water and formula seperate. Any ideas will be appreciated.

I would assume so. I'm a tea drinker, and I've never had trouble getting a cup of hot water and a tea bag..