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Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:26 am

I remember flying eastern as a kid, what a great airline, but can't remember which gates/concourses they used. Can anyone help me on this? Thanks!
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:44 am

EA's gates were located on the northern side of the terminal.
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:53 am

Quoting MIAUA777 (Thread starter):
remember flying eastern as a kid, what a great airline, but can't remember which gates/concourses they used. Can anyone help me on this? Thanks!

EA used concourse B and C, some gates on D, and if I recall had international operations out of the E concourse and E Satellite terminal building.
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:50 am

I believe they are currently AA gates in MIA.
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:55 am

Thanks for all the info. I Just noticed that concourse B was demolished to make way for the new North Terminal. I believe easterns hanger and Admin buildings have been torn down for a while. Is there still any sign of eastern in the terminal or around the airport? Any old photos of inside the EA terminal would be highly appreciated.
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:57 am

Eastern was B,C and D concourse. All their int'l flight srrived at Concourse E, then the planes were tugged over to the other concourses.
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:27 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 5):
Eastern was B,C and D concourse. All their int'l flight srrived at Concourse E, then the planes were tugged over to the other concourses.

To add a little more to that, Eastern used all of B, all of C but only part of D. B and C were on long-term lease from the airport. On the old Concourse D, Eastern leased four or five gates on the north half and Braniff leased four or five on the south half. The D-Extension was then built and old D was torn down and rebuilt, with busing service from the terminal to the D-Extension during the construction. Eastern had preferential rights to a couple of north side gates on the D-Extension and part-time preferential rights on two more gates for a couple of hours per day as I recall, but they lost those rights when they downsized after the strike began.

As stated, all EA international flights arrived on E (except some used new international gates on D toward the end) and were towed off to B, C or D for departure but we used to go through hell trying to get EA to tow the dead airplanes off so we could assign other carriers to E gates. We would often force 2, 3, or 4 EA international arrivals to the same gate 45 minutes to an hour apart to force them to move the dead airplanes; otherwise they'd let them sit for hours and we'd hit them with overtime parking which they would dispute a month or so later but eventually they paid up.

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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:58 pm

I'm surprised EA never had B concourse customs as there was before it was torn down. As most know the B Customs today serves concourse A & formerly B as well. Lan, British Airways, TAM and AA are the most common users of the B Customs at MIA.
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:41 am

Does anyone knows where can I see the 80´s routes map ?
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting Bongo (Reply 8):
Does anyone knows where can I see the 80´s routes map ?

http://www.airchive.com/Timetables%2...Eastern%20Compressed/EAmap8012.jpg

You can click on the map, and then enlarge it for better clarity...
 
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:58 am

Thanks a lot LawnDart! Any other map with South American routes ?
EDIT: Sorry, I got it ....very nice page you gave me.

[Edited 2006-09-12 18:04:19]
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:10 am

Looking at those timetables, I could swear they used to fly to Medellin EOH, but I don´t see it there...
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting Bongo (Reply 11):
Looking at those timetables, I could swear they used to fly to Medellin EOH, but I don´t see it there...

EA never had the rights to fly to MDE. AA only started service there in 2002, IIRC.
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:14 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
I'm surprised EA never had B concourse customs as there was before it was torn down. As most know the B Customs today serves concourse A & formerly B as well. Lan, British Airways, TAM and AA are the most common users of the B Customs at MIA.

The B-FIS wasn't staffed with federal agencies until after Eastern died. Eastern, by themselves, didn't have enough international arrival flights to feed the FIS. And, EA didn't have international flights for the last year or so of their life so there was no need for a staffed FIS until we started assigning a large variety of international carriers to gates on B after Eastern finally died in January 1991. We had to move a ton of carriers off of D and E gates to accommodate AA's hub expansion at the time and to support the manning of the FIS with decent hourly international passenger flows to warrant having federal agency employees working there.

From what I've read, Concourse A will be closing when MIA's new South Terminal and FIS open next year so they can expedite construction of the North Terminal project faster with an earlier completion date (2010 instead of 2012?). That will close the B-FIS and federal agency personnel will then staff the new South Terminal FIS.


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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting DB777 (Reply 13):
And, EA didn't have international flights for the last year or so of their life

Yes they did - they just didn't have the MIA to South America route system anymore, which was sold to AA.
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RE: Eastern Airlines Gates In MIA?

Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:32 am

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 14):
Yes they did - they just didn't have the MIA to South America route system anymore, which was sold to AA.

You're correct. That part of history must have slipped my mind but not by much. Yes, they did have some international flights out of MIA at the end but it wasn't much at all. I should have said limited international flights, or seriously reduced international flights, out of MIA that could not support a staffed FIS at B.

Their January 1, 1991 system timetable only shows ONE non-stop international flight, to/from CUN (1 daily) from MIA.

Eastern Express (Bar Harbor) operated the Bahamian flights out of MIA and TPA but those were with commuter aircraft with small capacity. ATL and SJU had some international flights but it looks like the SJU international flights were operated by Eastern Express (Metro Airlines).

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