emrecan
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European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:21 pm

I flew to USA by LH last week via FRA and during my stop I counted at least 12 American planes in one hour -other than LH planes flying to USA (Delta, Continental, American Airlines, United, US Airways).

So which european cities have the most flights from USA.
I guess first one is LHR, 2nd one is FRA..

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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:26 pm

CDG is pretty big - DL have a massive presence there I would think, through the alliance with AF.

I would say:

LHR
FRA
CDG
AMS
LGW
MUC
MAN
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:38 pm

Me two, I agree with the list above. I would definetly say LHR.
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:49 pm

Are you asking for cities or airports? ie:LHR+LGW=London.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:56 pm

Bobnwa:

Let's say airports..
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:59 pm

Guys this is like asking if the sun shines in Florida.

It's Heathrow.

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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:20 pm

Quoting JFKLGANYC (Reply 5):
Guys this is like asking if the sun shines in Florida.

it rains a lot during the summer in the evenings  Wink
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting Emrecan (Thread starter):
I flew to USA by LH last week via FRA and during my stop I counted at least 12 American planes in one hour -other than LH planes flying to USA

Many Asian airlines also exercise their 5th Freedom rights from Europe to the US.

SQ: FRA-JFK
AI: FRA-ORD, FRA-LAX, CDG-EWR, LHR-JFK
PK: MAN-IAH

to name just a few.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:31 am

I think it is :

1) LHR
2) CDG
3) FRA
4) AMS
5) LGW
6) MAD
7) ZRH
...
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:43 am

Yes, LHR by a long way, then CDG and FRA are actually pretty close seconds depending on day/week.


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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:00 am

I'm sure LHR is number one. CDG sees 43 daily flights to the USA (summer season) :
BOS : 2 AF, 1 AA
JFK : 5 AF, 1 DL, 2 AA
EWR : 1 AF, 2 CO, 1 AI
PHL : 1 AF, 1 US
IAD : 3 AF, 1 UA
CVG : 1 AF, DL
ORD : 1 AF, 1 UA, 1 AA
DTW : 1 AF, 1 NW
ATL : 1 AF, 3 DL
MIA : 1 AF, 1 AA
IAH : 2 AF, 1 CO
DFW : 1 AA
SFO : 1 AF

How many for FRA ?
LAX : 3 AF, 1 TN
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:12 am

I would say the top 5 are:

LHR
FRA
CDG
AMS
LGW
F1 Tommy
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:46 am

Quick list of daily flights for LHR:
BOS - 3 daily BA, 1 daily VS, 2 daily AA
JFK - 6 daily + 1 weekly BA, 4 daily VS, 5 daily + 6 weekly AA, 1 daily UA, 1 daily AI, 3 weekly KU
EWR - 2 daily + 6 weekly BA, 1 daily + 6 weekly VS
PHL - 2 daily BA
BWI - 1 daily BA
IAD - 3 daily BA, 1 daily VS, 4 daily UA
MIA - 2 daily BA, 1 daily VS, 1 daily + 1 weekly AA
ORD - 3 daily BA, 5 daily AA, 3 daily UA, 3 weekly AI
DTW - 1 daily BA
DEN - 1 daily BA
PHX - 6 weekly BA
SEA - 1 daily + 3 weekly weekly BA
SFO - 2 daily BA, 1 daily VS, 2 daily UA
LAX - 3 daily BA, 2 daily VS, 2 daily AA, 2 daily UA, 1 daily NZ

= 75 daily flights from LHR based on schedules for next week
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:16 am

Quoting FoxXray (Reply 8):
6) MAD

JFK - 2 Daily Iberia, 1 Daily Delta, 3x Weekly Air Comet.
EWR - 1 Daily Continental.
ATL - 1 Daily Delta.
ORD - 1 Daily Iberia
MIA - 2 Daily Iberia, 1 Daily American, 4xweekly (?) Air Madrid (Oct.)
PHL - 1 Daily US Airways.
LAX - 2x Weekly Air Madrid (Oct.)

Not as much as FRA, LHR, and CDG but MAD's up there.
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:47 pm

Manchester has:-

JFK 1 x daily BA & 1 x daily DL 3 x weekly PK
PHL 1 x daily US
ORD 1 x daily AA 1 x daily BD 2 x weekly PK
LAS 2 x weekly LAS
MCO 6 x weekly VS (10 x weekly in summer)
BOS 1 x daily AA
EWR 2 x daily CO
ATL 1 x daily DL
IAH 1 x weekly PK

suprisingly on a par with Madrid! (Not bad for a regional airport! 4th busiest in the UK)
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:51 pm

Quoting KA501 (Reply 14):
4th busiest in the UK

Have we been overtaken by Stansted yet?
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:20 pm

I dont think there's much of a challenge in this one. Heathrow takes it first hand and leaves the competition a while behind.
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:08 pm

No contest its LHR at the moment. I say at the moment because AMS and FRA are getting very close because LHR does not have the infastructure to cope with any more flights. The access to the airports main terminals is by a two lane tunnel which at the best of times is congested. LHR is trying to upgrade all the time but unfortunatley personally I think its a loosing battle.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:17 pm

MUC (this ist staralliance territory)
(all flights daily if not marked otherwise)

JFK - LH (X/6)
EWR - LH/Privatair
ATL - DL
RSW - LT (1 weekly)
PHL - US
ORD - LH, UA
IAD - LH, UA
BOS - LH
LAX - LH
SFO - LH
CLT - LH
MIA - LH(X/7)


That puts MUC above MAD and MAN.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:17 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 13):
JFK - 2 Daily Iberia, 1 Daily Delta, 3x Weekly Air Comet.
EWR - 1 Daily Continental.
ATL - 1 Daily Delta.
ORD - 1 Daily Iberia
MIA - 2 Daily Iberia, 1 Daily American, 4xweekly (?) Air Madrid (Oct.)
PHL - 1 Daily US Airways.
LAX - 2x Weekly Air Madrid (Oct.)

im suprised IAH isnt served into MAD...
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:20 pm

Amsterdam:

ATL: 1 Daily KL, 1 Daily DL
BOS: 1 Daily NW
CVG: 1 Daily DL (seasonal)
DTW: 4 Daily NW
EWR: 1 Daily KL (+2 weekly seasonal), 2 Daily CO (1 seasonal)
IAD: 1 Daily KL, 1 Daily UA
IAH: 2 Daily KL, 1 Daily CO
JFK: 2 Daily KL, 1 Daily DL
LAX: 1 Daily KL
MCO: 4 Weekly MP
MEM: 1 Daily NW
MIA: 3 Weekly MP
MSP: 3 Daily NW
ORD: 1 Daily KL, 1 Daily UA
PHL: 1 Daily US
SEA: 1 Daily NW
SFO: 1 Daily KL

That brings a total of about 30 flights a day.

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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:47 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 9):
I think it is :

1) LHR
2) CDG
3) FRA
4) AMS
5) LGW
6) MAD
7) ZRH

MAN, DUB and probably SNN have more than MAD and ZRH
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:08 pm

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 19):
im suprised IAH isnt served into MAD...

Continental 62/63 is a continuing flight to IAH. Not usually with the same plane but it's a continuing flight.
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:36 pm

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 19):
im suprised IAH isnt served into MAD...

Continental is supposed to start IAH-MAD when the 787's arrive. It has been a route that has been considered for quite a while (along with IAH-FRA), but the U.S. transit visa issue has knocked out part of the market CO was hoping to tap into pre 9/11 (Latin America to Spain). Not to mention CO's current lack of widebodies and their concentration on EWR.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:47 pm

Er have you Forgotten Terminal 5 at LHR.

Once that goes operational LHR will have a lot more traffic Space available.

As Terminal 4 will loose BA along withTerminal 1 so the bulk of the central area congestion will vanish in the best part of a week once T-5 is fully operational.

Also the new Terminal will have its own Rail and Tube / Underground Station as well along with direct acces from the M25 so LHR will be able to expand in one Giant Leap!
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:10 pm

data for FRA based on Fraport's printed summer timetable (only non-stop flights; not all flights operating year-round with same frequency):

ANC: 2x weekly DE
ATL: 2x daily DL, 1x daily LH
BOS: 2x daily
CLT: 1x daily US
ORD: 2x daily UA, 3x daily LH, 1x daily AA, 4x weekly AI
CVG: 1x daily DL
DFW: 1x daily AA, 1x daily LH
DEN: 1x daily LH
DTW: 1x daily NW, 1x daily LH
RSW: 2x weekly DE
IAH: 1x daily LH
LAS: 3x weekly DE
LAX: 2x daily LH, 1x daily AI
MIA: 1x daily LH
JFK: 3x daily LH, 1x daily DL, 1x daily SQ
EWR: 2x daily LH, 1x daily CO
MCO: 3x weekly DE
PHL: 2x daily US, 1x daily LH
PDX: 1x daily LH
SFO: 1x daily UA, 1x daily LH
IAD: 3x daily UA, 2x daily LH

That's 21 destinations served non-stop from FRA. 42 daily departures plus 4 weekly flights on AI and 10 weekly on DE. So in total you could say 44 daily flights...

Nowhere close to LHR but not bad either... but as far as I can see it FRA serves the highest number of destinations!

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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:36 pm

Quoting MUCflieger (Reply 18):
MUC (this ist staralliance territory)
(all flights daily if not marked otherwise)

JFK - LH (X/6)
EWR - LH/Privatair

Slight perfection (in case someone wants to fly MUC - EWR in pure Business Class on a Saturday Big grin ) ...
It is the other way 'round:
JFK is served daily by LH
EWR is daily except "6" flown by a BBJ of Privatair for LH
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:05 am

so only for passengers flights from CDG :
JFK : 9
EWR : 4
BOS : 3
PHL : 2
MIA : 3
ATL : 4
CVG : 2
DTW : 2
ORD : 2
IAD : 4
IAH : 3
SFO : 1
LAX : 4
DFW : 1

i count 44 flights and you have probably read it too, DL will open SLC-CDG and CO CLE-CDG so it will be 46 ! and AF is still looking at DFW, SEA and DEN (or PHX i don't remember)...

so :
1) LHR (by far)
2) CDG
3) FRA
...

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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:04 am

Quoting Sevenforeseven (Reply 17):
No contest its LHR at the moment. I say at the moment because AMS and FRA are getting very close because LHR does not have the infastructure to cope with any more flights. The access to the airports main terminals is by a two lane tunnel which at the best of times is congested. LHR is trying to upgrade all the time but unfortunatley personally I think its a loosing battle.

I think you will find the majority of BA flights to the US operate from T4,which is quite easy to reach,and also T5 will be up and running in the not too distant future.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting Sevenforeseven (Reply 17):
No contest its LHR at the moment. I say at the moment because AMS and FRA are getting very close because LHR does not have the infastructure to cope with any more flights. The access to the airports main terminals is by a two lane tunnel which at the best of times is congested. LHR is trying to upgrade all the time but unfortunatley personally I think its a loosing battle.

I think you will find the majority of BA flights to the US operate from T4,which is quite easy to reach,and also T5 will be up and running in the not too distant future.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:24 am

30 flights a day from AMS, thats like 210 flights a week! ofcourse it doesn't beat airports like FRA and LHR, but i doubt if CDG really sees more...
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:44 am

For years LHR has reached it's traffic saturation point and has no more growth potential. Also, the night time curfew limit will remain for the established # of arrivals. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for FRA, CDG and AMS to pass LHR for the above mentioned traffic.
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:54 am

Wonder how many departures Ramstein Air Base has in a day? Anybody have that info?
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:56 am

BA and LH use many 744 and A340/330 and for BA-777 so their average palne is bigger too, most 767 are from the US side.
 
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RE: European City With The Most Flights To/from USA

Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:47 am

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 30):
30 flights a day from AMS, thats like 210 flights a week! ofcourse it doesn't beat airports like FRA and LHR, but i doubt if CDG really sees more...

Sure does...

As of actual data past 24 hrs:

LHR 75
CDG 46
FRA 45
AMS 38

Includes cargo and non-scheduled.


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