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Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:57 am

While looking in a airliner magazine I was reding about the A380. It said that the A380 can land, load, and unload passengers at any airport the 747 flys to. I also read a A380 book and it showed the 2007 scheduled airports to have the A380. Heres a list of some of the airports that will have the A380.

LAX
NRT
SFO
MSP
LHR and LGW
SYD
CDG

There are some other airports but I forgot the other airports.
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Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:05 am

Yes it can, the problem w A388 is taxiways due to wingspan (almost 80 m ).

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Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:08 am

you forgot obviously SIN as the first airlines who will fly A380 is SQ.
You can also add to your list : FRA (LH), DXB (EK), YUL, PEK, JFK
 
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Airports scheduled to see the A 380 as of now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:09 am

Yes, the A380 should be able to land and take-off on any runway capable of handling a 747. And provided you have a patch of tarmac large enough, it can park there and load-and-unload.

However, structures adjacent to the taxiways might be in the path of the A380's outboard engines or wingtips/wingfences. Also, remote-standing an A380 is very inefficient in terms of loading and unloading both passengers and cargo.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:29 am

Won't YYZ be A380 ready very soon....?
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:31 am

As per their websites, MCO and DFW are 380 compatible. That doesn't mean they will get service, but they are able to host it in a pax situation if needed.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:32 am

How much longer is the A380's wings to the 747's wings? It is true that something may be in the way.

How could I forget JFK, FRA, and DXB.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:39 am

MEL will see the A380 when QF introduce their first service MEL-LAX. I supect AKL, CHC, BNE & PER will also see A380 on an ad hoc if not regular service basis. SYD-AKL/CHC are very common "work up" routes for QF, they often see aircraft substitions for maintance/training purposes.

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Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:43 am

There are about 24 airports that are prepared or preparing for regular WhaleJet ops. Many more will be official alternates, suitable for ETOPS planning depending on weather, and will be able to load and unload passengers using stairs. There are yet more (including all 210 airports equipped for regular JumboJet ops) than could, in an emergency, accommodate a WhaleJet and unload the passengers on the runway using stairs. In an extreme emergency, there are yet more airports at which a WhaleJet could land, but takeoff would require stripping out the interior, etc.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:32 am

Don't forget MEM and IND, for FedEx
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:39 am

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
MSP

Minneapolis? Who's going to fly the A380 there? Nobody I can think of right now. Yes, you all get the 747 but I don't believe NW is going to get any A380s any time in the near future nor will anyone who is going to operate them fly them there.

Won't Hong Kong see it? Won't SQ have to continue to make a stop on the SIN-HKG-SFO route because of range?

I know who won't be getting the A380...ATL. They have said they won't go through the hopps to build stuff up to not get flights. At least make one or two of the gates compatible and plan for it at the new international terminal if you can ever quit bitching about what city leader's family will make the most money off of the deal.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:51 am

I have a feeling we'll be seeing A380's at MAN before too long.
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:01 am

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 8):
Many more will be official alternates, suitable for ETOPS planning

Sorry to be off topic, but what does ETOPS have to do with the A380?
(ETOPS = Extended Twin-engine OPerationS)


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Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:26 am

SDF, ANC andONT ?

What's the list up to now?

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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 9):
Don't forget MEM and IND, for FedEx

How about EWR, after MEM and IND EWR is one of FX's largest US hubs.
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:25 am

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
I also read a A380 book and it showed the 2007 scheduled airports to have the A380.

Given that as few as four A380s may be delivered in 2007, (if rumors are to be believed) your list of airports would actually be quite a bit smaller (SIN, LAX, NRT, SFO, LHR, and wherever else SQ may fly them in '07).
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:49 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
I know who won't be getting the A380...ATL. They have said they won't go through the hopps to build stuff up to not get flights. At least make one or two of the gates compatible and plan for it at the new international terminal if you can ever quit bitching about what city leader's family will make the most money off of the deal.

Officials at SEA have also said that they won't be making upgrades to accommodate the A380. While I don't think that either ATL or SEA would be at the top of any A380 operator's list for new service, their respective markets are certainly large enough to make their refusal to upgrade their facilities to A380 specifications noteworthy.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:14 am

MSP, MEM, and some other small airports would be in the second phase. The second phase is airports that are large cargo hubs. MSP would get the FedEx and UPS A380s. There has also been rumours that AF might fly to MSP. I'm not saying AF's A380s would fly to MSP but you never know.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:20 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 16):
Officials at SEA have also said that they won't be making upgrades to accommodate the A380. While I don't think that either ATL or SEA would be at the top of any A380 operator's list for new service, their respective markets are certainly large enough to make their refusal to upgrade their facilities to A380 specifications noteworthy.

Not sure "noteworthy" is the right word...  Smile

While we here at SEA see some 747 service (BA and BR), many of our 747 and DC-10 service has been replaced with 777s, A330s, and A340s. We've also spent billions on terminal renovations, including a new concourse. If we thought the A380 would be visiting us, we'd probably have included her in the planning.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:22 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 4):
Won't YYZ be A380 ready very soon....?

YYZ and YVR will be the first two Canadian airports to see it, with possibly YUL when AF gets theirs. YYC will be a likely diversionary airport.
Additional US airports will likely include MIA, DFW, ORD and DEN. SLC could see one on an emergency diversion (Virgin Atlantic has set down a 744 here on a few occasions).
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:46 am

Cochin International Airport is A380 ready. Probably Kingfisher will fly Cochin - LHR..
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):
YYZ and YVR will be the first two Canadian airports to see it

What's your basis for that? I haven't heard of any airlines planning to take A380 to either YYZ or YVR, making AF's service to YUL almost certainly the first to Canada. Not that that will necessarily happen next year, however...

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Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:04 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
While we here at SEA see some 747 service (BA and BR), many of our 747 and DC-10 service has been replaced with 777s, A330s, and A340s. We've also spent billions on terminal renovations, including a new concourse. If we thought the A380 would be visiting us, we'd probably have included her in the planning.

Not really...the only 747 service I can think of that's been replaced with a smaller aircraft is NW's SEA-NRT flight, and that's mostly because NW started PDX-NRT and eliminated the need for PDX passengers to connect at SEA. Otherwise, I can't think of a single route at SEA currently served by a B777/A340 sized aircraft that was regularly served with a 747 in recent history. That isn't to say that SEA would be getting A380 service if they paid for the upgrades (I doubt we would), but I don't think it would be totally out of the realm of possibility, particularly if some more Asian carriers placed orders.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:18 pm

Quoting Af773atmsp (Reply 17):
MSP, MEM, and some other small airports would be in the second phase. The second phase is airports that are large cargo hubs. MSP would get the FedEx and UPS A380s.

I can tell you that MSP won't get a A380 from FEDEX. MEM will but not MSP. MEM is a huge cargo airport not a small one like you said. It just happens to be the biggest and busiest cargo airport in the world.  Wink  Wink  Big grin
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:34 pm

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 21):
What's your basis for that? I haven't heard of any airlines planning to take A380 to either YYZ or YVR, making AF's service to YUL almost certainly the first to Canada.

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Look at all the big Asian & Middle Eastern carriers (Singapore, Emirates) that are first to get it. They only serve YVR and YYZ. YUL will likely see it from AF sooner or later, but all serious bets are that YYZ and YVR will see it well before  razz ! The center for Canada isn't around Quebec and YUL, nor does anyone outside of P.Q. even remotely think that!  mischievous   laughing 
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:48 pm

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
I also read a A380 book and it showed the 2007 scheduled airports to have the A380. Heres a list of some of the airports that will have the A380.

LAX
NRT
SFO
MSP
LHR and LGW
SYD
CDG

There are some other airports but I forgot the other airports.

I think these are the airports the A380 is going on tour in. Airbus's A380 program manager promised a world airport tour to guarantee airport compatibility. So, I guess this is it. SYD, and LHR however have already been covered. And LGW??? who is going to fly the A380 there? Ryanair?
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:59 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 8):
There are about 24 airports that are prepared or preparing for regular WhaleJet ops.

Airbus claimed in this ILA Berlin briefing from last May that they expected 66 airports to be Superjumbo-ready by 2010. See page 12.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:05 pm

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
MSP

That was a good joke...Can you imagine 1 A380 parked next to all those DC9s? What a scene!

The only way MSP will see an A380 is on a diversion.
NW won't buy them as a 744 replacement, their current fleet replacement seems to be going for lots of mid-sized planes with legs to add non-stop points over flying Japan or AMS. And the Cargo division does a lot of oversized items that will need the front loading system of a 747. I can see the 748F before an A380F. I have hard time imagining even a 748i in the NW fleet...(sounds crazy but I could see 773ER before a 748i).
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:55 pm

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 12):
Sorry to be off topic, but what does ETOPS have to do with the A380?
(ETOPS = Extended Twin-engine OPerationS)

Sorry, I meant LROPS.

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 27):
Airbus claimed in this ILA Berlin briefing from last May that they expected 66 airports to be Superjumbo-ready by 2010.

Ready as an alternate, yes. For regular passenger operations, no. ONT is an example. It is being readied as an alternate to LAX.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:21 pm

my guess...either YYT or YHZ when it has a mechanical or medical emergency in it's first month of operation on trans atlantic flights.
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:43 pm

They are already working on quite a bit of expansion at SDF to get ready for the UPS A380s. Runway 17R/35L (10,000ft) was originally supposed to be stretched by 2,000 ft. 800 ft to the north and 1200 to the south. The 800ft extension is complete, but sources say that now the original 2000ft has now been changed to 3600 feet. In addition, they will be expanding taxiways and ramps. The big news at UPS though, is that they will be tearing down the Ashbottom hub building to make room for a hangar just for the A380.

From what what I understand, there is an FAA regulation stating that any runway in the US that handles the A380 must be 200ft wide. Supposedly SDF is trying to get an exemption from this rule, as the runways here are only 150ft wide.
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:26 pm

Quoting Kaitak744 (Reply 26):
And LGW??? who is going to fly the A380 there? Ryanair?

Emirates To Dubai

Virgin Atlantic To Orlando

A couple of possibilities for you there!!

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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:55 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
Minneapolis? Who's going to fly the A380 there? Nobody I can think of right now. Yes, you all get the 747 but I don't believe NW is going to get any A380s any time in the near future nor will anyone who is going to operate them fly them there.



Quoting Centrair (Reply 28):
That was a good joke...Can you imagine 1 A380 parked next to all those DC9s? What a scene!

My thought exactly when I first read this! MSP has only 1 flight a day to/from NRT by 744. Compare to LAX, LHR, SIN, JFK that they have 100s of 744 flight a day. I just dont see it!

And about ATL, I think the carrier that buy 380 wouldn't care if they cant send 380 to it. Small city like Atlanta or Minneapolis wouldnt see 380 fly to except if DL or NW have it themselves. ATL and MSP is busy because of the connections and being a hub of the big airlines, not because of the cities.

SEA is the same thing. I live in Seattle and I cant see any carrier want to send 380 here. All the inter flight rightnow aren't even 744 daily except BA.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:24 pm

Kuala Lumpur International (KUL). One runway is currently being closed for A380 related works as well as some final finishing in the Satellite terminal which will handle the frame. It's almost complete and KUL can serves 3 (or was it 5) A380s at a time when the whole works completed.

This can be considered as an indicator that MH will proceed with its purchase of A380, maybe not all 6 frames as confirmed earlier.
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:10 pm

Quoting Jean Leloup (Reply 21):
What's your basis for that? I haven't heard of any airlines planning to take A380 to either YYZ or YVR, making AF's service to YUL almost certainly the first to Canada. Not that that will necessarily happen next year, however...

The issue is not about any airline announcing services to YYZ.....sensible airport planning involves taking into consideration the future possibilities  smile 

Terminal 1 at YYZ will be capable of accomodating A380's on atleast 2-3 gates in the main hammerhead section of the terminal.....right at the far end....

The problem today is that everyone seems to be guessing that only so-and-so airports will receive 380 services....once the 380 goes into regular service, a lot of other airports will be receiving the flights and those who are preparing for it today are making the right moves....
 
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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:19 pm

Your all forgetting an even obvious one:

TLS

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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):

YYZ and YVR will be the first two Canadian airports to see it, with possibly YUL when AF gets theirs. YYC will be a likely diversionary airport.

YUL will see it first, on Air France.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):
Additional US airports will likely include MIA, DFW, ORD and DEN.

MIA will see it with Air France and likely Lufthansa. ORD will see it eventually, but DEN? No.

Quoting SQNo1 (Reply 31):

Virgin Atlantic To Orlando

A couple of possibilities for you there!!

VS to Orlando is not a possibility. VS' A380s will all be Heathrow-based, not Gatwick-based.

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Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:40 pm

I usually support people who might start threads that have been repeated previously, but really, this horse is being beaten to death.
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:09 am

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 35):
Your all forgetting an even obvious one:

TLS


just out of curiousity....does the Airbus facility at TLS have a proper mock terminal with airbridges, to test how a 380 can load/unload pax...?
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:14 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 14):
How about EWR

Negative.

EWR serves primarily European destinations for overseas ops.

The A380 will be used solely for Pac/Asia operations from MEM. IND will get one flight daily.
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 11):
I have a feeling we'll be seeing A380's at MAN before too long.

Hope so!!!
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:21 am

in France at least TLS (of course) LBG, CDG and LDE !
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:34 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 39):
The A380 will be used solely for Pac/Asia operations from MEM. IND will get one flight daily.

Fxramper is correct MEM airport is doing all kinds of construction in anticipation of this a/c.
 
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:51 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):
if you can ever quit bitching about what city leader's family will make the most money off of the deal.

Not as bad since old Maynard left office (after getting the Chili's franchise in the A "spine"). Don't get me started on naming that place for him.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 14):
How about EWR, after MEM and IND EWR is one of FX's largest US hubs.

What about ONT (UPS) and OAK (FDX)?
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:57 am

Will the A380 be able to fit under Gatwick Bridge?
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:00 am

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 12):
(ETOPS = Extended Twin-engine OPerationS)

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Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:04 am

Quoting Af773atmsp (Thread starter):
Heres a list of some of the airports that will have the A380.

LAX
NRT
SFO
MSP
LHR and LGW
SYD
CDG

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Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:59 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 19):
Additional US airports will likely include MIA, DFW, ORD and DEN. SLC could see one on an emergency diversion (Virgin Atlantic has set down a 744 here on a few occasions).



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 36):
ORD will see it eventually, but DEN? No.

I have noticed some people have said ORD will get the A380 but the airport authority have said several times that they will not spend money on it. I think they will get them later down the road as will ATL and even SEA but not anytime in the near future in fact I bet it will be at least 10 years before scheduled service will come to any of those cities on a A380.
 
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Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:31 am

As for Fedex, only three U.S. cities to deal with it initially...MEM, IND and ANC.

I have not heard that EWR is ready for it, but if that's the case, its possbile you might see JFK added to that list for any Euopean ops via an east coast city.
 
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RE: Airports Scheduled To See The A 380 As Of Now

Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 34):
The issue is not about any airline announcing services to YYZ.....sensible airport planning involves taking into consideration the future possibilities

Oh, I agree absolutely - of course YYZ will see the A380 soon enough, and it's important to plan for it. I was simply responding to the extremely uninformed user above, who seemed to be asserting that YYZ and YVR will be first simply because they're bigger, even though it has been quite clear for some time that AF to YUL will be the first A380 service to Canada, despite this wise remark to my post:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 24):
all serious bets are that YYZ and YVR will see it well before ! The center for Canada isn't around Quebec and YUL, nor does anyone outside of P.Q. even remotely think that!

Not a very useful geopolitical insight.

Why not tone down the rudeness and pretension when discussing something you knwo nothing about?

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