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B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:12 pm

Exciting news, JFK-AUA starts today, and this further increased the amount of leisure destinations offered by B6. I am going to be flying this route in the spring, when i finally get a vacation?

Does B6 need to continually get DOT approval for its caribbean destinations? or it is for certain countries?

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:34 pm

Quote:
I am going to be flying this route in the spring, when i finally get a vacation?

You picked the right destination  Smile

Im also going there in spring, but then for a year , or maybe 2 years  Smile




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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:12 am

I hear the flights are selling very, very well - especially for the slower fall season.

This should be an awesome route for B6. I hope it works out.

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:19 am

There was a pretty decent battle for the authority to fly this route between JetBlue and Delta... I think Mariner provided the link in another thread.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf97/413592_web.pdf

Very interesting to see what the DOT looked at when making the decision to choose JetBlue to have authority on the route. In summary, they liked JetBlue's continued steady growth and connections more than DL's offering of larger equipment and more frequency (although I'm sure B6 would add more flights should demand dictate it).
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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:11 pm

Interesting, I wasn't aware of B6 starting flights to AUA. On which days is the flight operated, only on thursdays? Hope fully it will last, unlike the B6 flights to the Dominican Republic which wasn't performing well at all what I've read in the forum here. That the flight is selling well now doesn't mean anything. The first few flights are usually always selling good. Let's wait and see how they are performing in about a year from now.

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:16 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
On which days is the flight operated, only on thursdays?

Everyday.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
unlike the B6 flights to the Dominican Republic which wasn't performing well at all

The SDQ flight operated very badly. STI has really picked up and is doing very handsomely. There were certain days over the summer where it operated 2x. The fares for this fall went nowhere near as low as they did last year ($99 instead of $69, and the $99 fare can only be found on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Saturdays), and the flights are generally operating much fuller so far than last year. I have no clue why this is.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
That the flight is selling well now doesn't mean anything. The first few flights are usually always selling good. Let's wait and see how they are performing in about a year from now.

It is usually true that the first few flights sell very well, but that's usually just for the first 2 or 3 days of service. I've been looking at advanced bookings (well into October) and they are still selling very, very well. That's a really good sign.

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:27 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 5):
It is usually true that the first few flights sell very well, but that's usually just for the first 2 or 3 days of service. I've been looking at advanced bookings (well into October) and they are still selling very, very well. That's a really good sign.

That indeed sounds good  Smile

I've read that more low cost carriers failed in the Dominican Republic, why is this? How come other Caribbean destinations are performing better? I heard something about the amount of luggage people carry to the Dominican Republic was one factor (?)

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:59 am

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
I've read that more low cost carriers failed in the Dominican Republic, why is this? How come other Caribbean destinations are performing better? I heard something about the amount of luggage people carry to the Dominican Republic was one factor (?)

That's probably the biggest factor. JetBlue flew A320s to SDQ, which is a huge leisure destination. Many people in the Tri-State area are Dominican, and they'd take the flight to SDQ and would pack everything PLUS the kitchen sink. Though JetBlue would only allow 2 bags per person, it just became so complicated with people overstuffing their carry-ons, attempting to put in more weight than allowed, etc. Basically, the A320s just cannot carry the weight and they don't have the space.

On the other hand, AA puts its A300s on the SDQ route and takes in a lot of revenue with overweight fees, which most Dominican natives are prepared to pay. However, JetBlue took in virtually no overweight fees as there just wasn't enough room for these overweight bags.

STI, on the other hand, is a little bit more of an affluent area than SDQ, and those who are visiting don't really see the need to bring dishwashers, rocks, and skinned goats...

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:56 am

I think B6 would do well serving STT. It's closer to the northeast, so less fuel needed, and they've been trying to focus on shorter flights. Also, the USVI are reasonably wealthy, so natives flying home don't tend to pack as much as Dominicans/Jamaicans, etc. Such is the reason I think BDA and AUA will do well. However, I might have read that the problem in STT is ramp space - no where to put the planes when they land.
 
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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:33 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 7):
Many people in the Tri-State area are Dominican, and they'd take the flight to SDQ and would pack everything PLUS the kitchen sink.



Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 7):
STI, on the other hand, is a little bit more of an affluent area than SDQ, and those who are visiting don't really see the need to bring dishwashers, rocks, and skinned goats...

Hahaha, that is a funny way of explaining the over weight problem with the SDQ flights. It's even funnier when you know this is actually true, Caribbean people love to take everything on a plane and I really mean everything  

In AMS you have the same overweight problem when Turkish and Moroccan residents visit there relatives in Turkey and Morocco. Antilleans also have the same thing and I guess Surinamese people as well. I'm not sure about African natives but it could well be. It's just in these people's culture I guess, even though I don't carry so much with me when I travel. So there are exceptions  Smile

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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:58 am

STT has plenty of ramp space, I've been going to STT (hence my username) since 1993. In the Early Nineties STT was packed, AA has Several mainline flights between SJU and STT (mostly A300s). Plus AA also flew nonstop to RDU.

Today STT is a much quieter airport than it was in the early 1990s, there was a time in the late 1980s when PA, AA flew 2Xs daily from JFK-STT and CO and Eastern both flew EWR-STT.

STT is underserved compared to other Caribbean resort airports, they have plenty of ramp space and the facility can handle more than they are currently.

B6 could do well to STT year round from JFK and FLL, other places where B6 could do well to STT seasonally would be BOS and MCO.
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RE: B6 JFK-AUA Starts Today

Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:48 am

But is there ramp space during the times B6 would want to be there? Ideally passengers want to take an early am flight from NYC (8-9am) and arrive in STT around 12-1pm. Last April, when I arrived, the tarmac was full of planes from AA, CO, US, DL, etc. Although, in the past, B6 hasn't been bothered starting new routes at odd times - such as PHX, DEN, etc. with redeye flights as the planes would just be sitting around otherwise. But with STT, I don't think redeyes are an option.